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Behr Premium Plus flat?
Behr Ultra flat?
Behr Marquee flat?
Behr Ultra flat?
Behr Marquee flat?
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Which Behr exterior paint product line am I looking for?
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Marquee is preferred but at the very least Premium Plus. Source: painted a lot of trucks in Behr.
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Copy.
Thank you.
I can afford the Marquee.
Thank you.
I can afford the Marquee.
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We went with the Marquee- after all this work, I'm not about to get cheap with the paint...
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Of course we will expect photos after your project is complete.
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I told her she could "test" the paint, so she attacked it with a 4" roller...
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I think you may have to invest in a ladder
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What color is the above photo, 383 green? Couple of technical questions, as I am preparing to do a complete frame off restoration of a '68 M35A2 which is currently in 3 color camo.
1) Was going to try to keep it in a '68 paint scheme but not real fond of the 24087 color. I really like the Marine Corps 34052 color but have heard this cannot be matched in current color codes?
2) What primer has everyone had success with? We are blasting parts down to bare metal. I know many have used the red rusty metal primer but I heard that if there is bare metal with little to no rust, the oil in the primer that is supposed to bond with the rust will have no where to go and thus will react with and bubble up on the paint. Is there an over the counter bare metal primer anyone has had a particular liking of?
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1) Was going to try to keep it in a '68 paint scheme but not real fond of the 24087 color. I really like the Marine Corps 34052 color but have heard this cannot be matched in current color codes?
2) What primer has everyone had success with? We are blasting parts down to bare metal. I know many have used the red rusty metal primer but I heard that if there is bare metal with little to no rust, the oil in the primer that is supposed to bond with the rust will have no where to go and thus will react with and bubble up on the paint. Is there an over the counter bare metal primer anyone has had a particular liking of?
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Check out this link. 34052 $39/gal
paintgallons.quartertonparts.com
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I'd be interested in the primer feedback. Kind of doesn't make sense about the oil bubbling top coat if no rust. How would anyone paint ONLY the patch of rust and not any non-rusted area around it? But if this happens I'd like to know. I've got a number of rust patches I'm going to blast and repaint. Was planning on using rusty primer.
34052 Flat USMC Forrest Green 1 Gallon Paint WWII to Present – Quarter Ton & Military – Paint Gallons
paintgallons.quartertonparts.com
I'd be interested in the primer feedback. Kind of doesn't make sense about the oil bubbling top coat if no rust. How would anyone paint ONLY the patch of rust and not any non-rusted area around it? But if this happens I'd like to know. I've got a number of rust patches I'm going to blast and repaint. Was planning on using rusty primer.
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This is excellent! Thank you very much!Check out this link. 34052 $39/gal
.34052 Flat USMC Forrest Green 1 Gallon Paint WWII to Present – Quarter Ton & Military – Paint Gallons
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Yes, it is 383 green, but it is wet, so it looks shiny and darker in that pic...
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The top of the line Behr paint is advertised as a paint and a primer all in one, and it really does cover in just one coat...
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I do not yet know how this stuff will do over bare metal...
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Thank you all. I just got off the phone with a Behr paint rep. Trying to avoid oil based primarily because I'm lazy and don't like the mineral spirit cleanup hassles. I'll summarize the info I just received in the event someone is looking to do the same:
- Stated that while the Marquee is intended to be a primer and paint in one, since this is a vehicle application recommends using either Behr 436 multi surface primer or Behr 435 metal primer (preferred If the store you are using stocks 435). I'm not really sure why that matters, vehicle vs. exterior stationary, but he did say their paint has not been developed for vehicle applications.
- Recommended 2 coats of the Behr Marquee as an automotive application for durability and color consistency over bare/previously painted surfaces on same work piece. That means likely 4-6 gallons I'm guessing, but when the final restoration is completed will let you know. Sounds like many have had good results with one application, so we will see how it goes.
- Recommended an AIRLESS sprayer with a tip size of .015 - .021. Their R&D section has tested multiple spray tip sizes and found for this paint the indicated size to be the best for coverage and the nicest finish. I was looking at using an air sprayer, but they advised against it as in their tests the air sprayers made the finish look rough/blotchy and the paint did not level out properly. I suppose that all depends on the size of the tip for that as well.
- Great thing about this paint is you can apply it in temperatures ranging from 40 to 90 degrees.
- Stated that while the Marquee is intended to be a primer and paint in one, since this is a vehicle application recommends using either Behr 436 multi surface primer or Behr 435 metal primer (preferred If the store you are using stocks 435). I'm not really sure why that matters, vehicle vs. exterior stationary, but he did say their paint has not been developed for vehicle applications.
- Recommended 2 coats of the Behr Marquee as an automotive application for durability and color consistency over bare/previously painted surfaces on same work piece. That means likely 4-6 gallons I'm guessing, but when the final restoration is completed will let you know. Sounds like many have had good results with one application, so we will see how it goes.
- Recommended an AIRLESS sprayer with a tip size of .015 - .021. Their R&D section has tested multiple spray tip sizes and found for this paint the indicated size to be the best for coverage and the nicest finish. I was looking at using an air sprayer, but they advised against it as in their tests the air sprayers made the finish look rough/blotchy and the paint did not level out properly. I suppose that all depends on the size of the tip for that as well.
- Great thing about this paint is you can apply it in temperatures ranging from 40 to 90 degrees.
Hmmm, have many people tried HVLP with the marquee line?
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Ultra-flat.
Marquee has a primer built in, and is not quite a semi-gloss but definitely not flat.
The premium plus laid down better than the marquee, but still wasn't flat.
I believe the product code is 4300.
I have a picture comparing the 3 in the Behr paint thread, I'll have to see if I can find it.
As far as spraying. I get the el cheapo 15$ airless paint sprayer from Harbor freight, thin the paint with water (Behr 4300 is a water based latex, so you can do that), and shoot it. Then just toss the paint sprayer..
Use grease/vasoline/oil to coat your windows/tail lights/headlights/etc or anything you don't wanna get paint on, and then use a razor after it dries to cut the edges and it'll peel right off...
Marquee has a primer built in, and is not quite a semi-gloss but definitely not flat.
The premium plus laid down better than the marquee, but still wasn't flat.
I believe the product code is 4300.
I have a picture comparing the 3 in the Behr paint thread, I'll have to see if I can find it.
As far as spraying. I get the el cheapo 15$ airless paint sprayer from Harbor freight, thin the paint with water (Behr 4300 is a water based latex, so you can do that), and shoot it. Then just toss the paint sprayer..
Use grease/vasoline/oil to coat your windows/tail lights/headlights/etc or anything you don't wanna get paint on, and then use a razor after it dries to cut the edges and it'll peel right off...
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First two were immediately after applying, next two were 5 days later... Apparently I didn't take pics of the ultra-flat.
5 days later...
This is Behr 4300 ultra-flat about 4 years after applying it....and the M1010 was about 2-3 years before that. If you're wondering about longevity. It's a 20 yr rated exterior paint..... It doesn't really fade...
5 days later...
This is Behr 4300 ultra-flat about 4 years after applying it....and the M1010 was about 2-3 years before that. If you're wondering about longevity. It's a 20 yr rated exterior paint..... It doesn't really fade...