Tire pressure

BinderDriver68 · Jul 29, 2021

I wanted to ask you guys if it would be a problem for me to check the tire pressure on my m101 a1 trailer
It says 35 but i think they are a tad low. I have a tire shop that says they will install tires for me and etc. But isbit safe for me to monitor the tire pressure
Myself with the lock rings and a a few pounds as needed or do i have to go to the tire shop everytime?

Thanks
Binderdriver68

98G · Jul 29, 2021

You can do it yourself, no problem.

BinderDriver68 · Jul 29, 2021

Thanks I just did't want to do something unsafe without knowing I don't have much experience with these type wheels.

thanks again
Binderdriver68

BinderDriver68 · Jul 29, 2021

I checked them they look like they have about 20 but didn't register on my air pressure gauge so I added 10 and am letting
them sit a few minutes then I'll add another 10 and then get them to 35 those rings make me nervous.

Binderdriver68

98G · Jul 29, 2021

These aren't the old split rim "widowmakers".

Still, any tire stores considerable energy in the compressed air.

Most of the risk is when initially seating the bead. After that, the risk is pretty minimal.

A locking chuck that you can walk away from is a good investment. I have one. You want one. It'll relieve all your inflation related stress...

BinderDriver68 · Jul 29, 2021

98G said:
These aren't the old split rim "widowmakers".

Still, any tire stores considerable energy in the compressed air.

Most of the risk is when initially seating the bead. After that, the risk is pretty minimal.

A locking chuck that you can walk away from is a good investment. I have one. You want one. It'll relieve all your inflation related stress...

yeah I just thought about that a minute ago I'll pick one up in the near future I'm at 20 now and so far everything
is normal so if I can get to 35 I've got it made. I am wanting to haul a load of top soil in the trailer I know
it's 3/4 ton but I think it could handle 4K is that to much do you think?

thanks
Dave

98G · Jul 29, 2021

Overloading it by a factor of three is probably not a good idea. Is multiple trips an option?

BinderDriver68 · Jul 29, 2021

98G said:
Overloading it by a factor of three is probably not a good idea. Is multiple trips an option?

yes I only live about 4 miles away and I don't want to damage it. I got the 35 in the tires thanks again
I appreciate your help. Is 1500 lbs about the most I should do then or could I safely get 1 ton?

Dave

98G · Jul 29, 2021

BinderDriver68 said:
yes I only live about 4 miles away and I don't want to damage it. I got the 35 in the tires thanks again
I appreciate your help. Is 1500 lbs about the most I should do then or could I safely get 1 ton?

Dave

There's really too many variables here to be able to give a definitive answer. Things that will influence it -

1) experience level and general competence level of the driver.

2) condition of the axles and springs and related mounting points

3) maximum speed

4) other traffic present

5) tow vehicle

6) hills

7) road condition

All of the above address the general safety and don't touch on legalities.

If there's any doubt, just make an extra trip. Certainly no harm in additional caution even if not needed.

BinderDriver68 · Jul 29, 2021

Makes sense thanks 98G have a good one.

Biinderdriver68

DeadParrot · Jul 30, 2021

From the TM on page 1-15: Payload - Cross country 1500 lb, Highway 2250 lb.

To 98G's list add:
Age and type of tires? If you have 50+ year old NDT tires, any load might be too much. Reasonably modern tires will have a max load @ pressure rating.

If everything on 98G's list + tire condition is a go, you should be able to ask for 1 ton and be safe. Loaders often add a 'little extra' so asking for a bit under max load helps keep you safe.

Keep in mind that the A1 has no 'in motion' brakes and many locations require trailer brakes somewhere around 3000 ~ 3400 lbs total trailer weight.

BinderDriver68 · Aug 2, 2021

Well I picked up some dirt today and had found the 2250 highway rating so I asked for 2000 lbs. the loader motioned
me over after loading some dirt and asked if I wanted more in the back since he dumped most of it in the front so
I asked if I had 2000 and he looked confused and said no I put 4000 on there so I said no don't want the back filled.
The trailer handled it like a champ with no issues but I was worried about it so I took it slow I hoped that it didn't
hurt the springs so I unloaded it and the springs went right back to normal height with no issues so I was thankful
for that. Next load I will take my bigger trailer and if I take this one again I will talk to the operator before he loads
my trailer. I honestly couldn't even tell I was pulling anything and the trailer pulled smooth but don't want to put
that kind of stress on it again.

Binderdriver68

Mullaney · Aug 2, 2021

BinderDriver68 said:
Well I picked up some dirt today and had found the 2250 highway rating so I asked for 2000 lbs. the loader motioned
me over after loading some dirt and asked if I wanted more in the back since he dumped most of it in the front so
I asked if I had 2000 and he looked confused and said no I put 4000 on there so I said no don't want the back filled.
The trailer handled it like a champ with no issues but I was worried about it so I took it slow I hoped that it didn't
hurt the springs so I unloaded it and the springs went right back to normal height with no issues so I was thankful
for that. Next load I will take my bigger trailer and if I take this one again I will talk to the operator before he loads
my trailer. I honestly couldn't even tell I was pulling anything and the trailer pulled smooth but don't want to put
that kind of stress on it again.

Binderdriver68

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Well, next time you see that loader operator he might be interested in how well it "pulled". Happily he was smart enough to make sure you had tongue weight! Otherwise, I imagine you would have had a pretty miserable drive home.

4000# seems like an incredible amount of weight for one scoop of dirt...

BinderDriver68 · Aug 2, 2021

Mullaney said:
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Well, next time you see that loader operator he might be interested in how well it "pulled". Happily he was smart enough to make sure you had tongue weight! Otherwise, I imagine you would have had a pretty miserable dive home.

4000# seems like an incredible amount of weight for one scoop of dirt...

Yeah that's allot of dirt in one scoop my truck would probably fit in the bucket on that loader I had to climb a 8 ft ladder just to talk to him LOL

fasttruck · Aug 5, 2021

Remember M 101s have no in motion brake. Just because you can get it going doesn't mean it can stop.

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