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Well---I agree thats probably the way it went but in talking with Killblane he said there wasn't an explanation of just what your photo was of, no gun ports and there is a different set of holes in one sheet, and no hole for the mirrior, this is your photo isn't it?---can I ask where ya got...

Here's some pics from the skunkworks at Anaconda and stuff removed, ring mount in a Livermore box, and some shtufff

Pre-armor?----early woodys, Here is at least two early gun trucks

Maddawg here's your VW---I don't think anyone really knows for sure but I also believe that the kits used in Nam started as armored troop carryers, When I started consulting for Livermore one of our first meetings were at Stewart Stevens headquarters in MI---three or four other manufacturers...