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When we're on the freeway in our MTVR, we're usually doing 65 mph...

Are you Frank H.?

A lot of people who have been in crashes have no idea what happened, and confabulate an explanation. One that I have heard MANY, MANY times, is a Harley owner claiming that he "had to lay 'er down" to avoid a crash (apparently not realizing that falling down IS a crash), when in reality what...

You're projecting- you have no way of knowing that...

If you have to go back almost 70 years to cherry-pick a singular crash that supports your argument, then I'm not buying what you're selling...

I don't think a lot of lay people understand the magnitude of the forces involved- I have seen fatals where the vehicle occupants were all ejected right out of their fully-laced shoes and out through the windshield- the shoes were still on the floor, and the bodies were all in the street...

You could say that... ;)

Which vehicle are you asking about? The speed ratings of the tires on my vehicles range from 55 mph to 186 mph. I may have exceeded the speed rating on the latter from time to time...

When you watch that 35 mph rollover above, keep in mind that doubling the speed to a more realistic 70 mph, would QUADRUPLE the amount of force.

Do the math:

Lol...

Is there an echo in here? ;)

I'm pretty stoked to have three 3-point inertia-reel seatbelts in my MTVR- one for me, one for my wife, and one for the dog, who has a vehicle harness...

This seatbelt thing is a lot like people who refuse to wear proper safety gear on a motorcycle- a lot of the ones that refuse wear it lose their lives, and so they aren't around to admit that they should have worn it.

Yup. Like Jezza said, speed never killed anybody- suddenly becoming stationary, that's what'll get you..."

I appreciate the civility of this discussion. We can agree to disagree, and still be okay with each other...

Lol. You may be kidding, but for years I have seen people simulating wearing their seatbelt, sometimes driving with one hand, so that they can hold onto the seatbelt against the force of the retractor with the other hand. Ironically, simulating wearing a seatbelt does not look nearly as much...

I will agree that people who don't want to wear seatbelts will reverse-engineer an argument to attempt to justify not wearing their seatbelt, but I believe that fear is almost always their primary motivation. Sometimes they will cherry-pick freak incidents to try to bolster their bogus...

The problem with that theory, is that you don't get to decide where you go in a collision- that's all up to the physics involved, and if the physics involved are sufficient to cause injury, they are WAY beyond human speed and strength. Bingo- he didn't jump out intentionally- the truck flicked...