11x20 tires on Deuce?

[snowplow]

I have an M35A2C that has 35 yr old tires on it. I need to replace them & considering going to 1100x20's on it & the trailer, has anyone done that & how is it working-- any problems-- better suggestions?

Thanks

 

[NDT]

Works great. Go check out Gensco Tire on Friendly Rd, they might have what you need.

 

[davidb56]

you will have chain clearance issues one the duals, but really depends on how much clearance you feel comfortable with. the tires clear fine.

 

[Recovry4x4]

It's been done a time or two. Michelins, Goodyear G177 Firestone T831 and NDTs. For an even cooler arrangement, use 14.5X20s on A3 rims in the front and dual 11;00 Michelins on the back.

 

[m715mike]

@runk has G177’s on his Deuce here in Houston.

 

[runk]

some threads-

Upgraded deuce's tires to Goodyear G177 11.00R20s (dualed)

Previously I had been aiming to go Michelin XL 11.00R20's in the rear and with Michelin XL 14.5R20 in the front (super single) on A3 wheels. Well, as most things: price, availability, and distance kept getting in the way. This past week end I was blessed to find a couple of deals for G177...

www.steelsoldiers.com

Mounting 11x20's

After braking down 6 9.00x20's on stock rims, and 6 11x20's on stock 5 ton rims, I was feeling like I was Super Hero tire de-mounter, . . . then I tried to put one together :( Now would be the perfect time to tell me how EASY it is, and that I'm not really a Super Hero if I can't get one back...

www.steelsoldiers.com

Another tire question

Is it OK to use 10x20 tubes in the 1100x20 Goodyear Tires. Tire guy i just talked to said that was what he was used to using. The 1100x20 tires will be on the stock Deuce rims, which are 9x20, correct? or wrong? :-?Thanks

www.steelsoldiers.com

 

[Recovry4x4]

Few pics. First 3 are of an auction truck with Firestone T831 tires. 4th one is a member here that I don't recall but has 11;00 Michelins on the back and 14.5 20 Michelins on the front with M35A3 rims. Last is a very fine M342A2 that belonged to Dave of Eastern Equipment back in the day. It's got 11;00 NDTs on it.

 

[V8srfun]

The only reason I am not going with 11’s is cost. So I am doing 395’s even though this is not my ideal choice my pocket persuaded me in to it. It is just simple math 6 tires will cost less than 10.

maybe one day I will loosen the pocket and get the g177’s I would like to have.

 

[davidb56]

The only reason I am not going with 11’s is cost. So I am doing 395’s even though this is not my ideal choice my pocket persuaded me in to it. It is just simple math 6 tires will cost less than 10.

maybe one day I will loosen the pocket and get the g177’s I would like to have.

Thats a good deal for 6- 395's. 10-New G177's are 2750$ at Boyce. So 6- 395's for under that, providing you have the wheels, is a steal. Normally they are about 4000$ for 6 new ones. Now I wish I shopped around and got singles.

 

[V8srfun]

Thats a good deal for 6- 395's. 10-New G177's are 2750$ at Boyce. So 6- 395's for under that, providing you have the wheels, is a steal. Normally they are about 4000$ for 6 new ones. Now I wish I shopped around and got singles.

because of the cost I am running factory wheels even though I know it is not the best solution. I will say that I do know it has been done safely countless times so I am not concerned about that. I am buying tires from the auction and they have been working out to about $125 a piece. I have a four right now and will be working on winning another auction whenever a batch of them comes available. For me it is nice because I am in a unique situation where the auction is about an hour and a half drive from my front door. If I was to buy from any of the surplus dealers I would have to get to the tires delivered and that in some cases doubles the price of the tires.

 

[tobyS]

Your price on 395s isn't stated, but once you get 7 plus adaptors and wheels, that is not a cheap change. Don't forget to have the hubs flipped on the rear for dish out mounting of the single.

My preference is dual 11.00 on rear and A3 rim w/14.5r20 for steer.

 

[fasttruck]

The Army itself used 11:00X20 tires on M 35s but 6 at a time. I can empathize with post 6 because shortly after installing 7 Michelin radials on M 35s the decision was made to canabilize them and the engines and transmissions were removed. So as the Army would not issue a new radial tire for your five ton driver, you went down to the can point, dismounted 11ea bias tires on your 5 ton and as the rims are different between a deuce and a 5 ton, demounted 11ea radial tires from the deuces which you them mounted on your 10 lug 5 ton rims. But there was more ! You then had the mount 6ea bias tires on deuce rims so the remains could be towed away. I could do one such conversion a day armed with a hammer, pic bars for the lock rings and a 1" impact wrench to take the wheels on and off. However those days are a long way back in the rear view mirror.

 

[dmetalmiki]

1200x20 on one of my deuces. Singled out on 'AEC Militant Wheels). Nice low rpm's at cruise. 45 MPH. Good mpg, In excess of 17 MPG. British Gallons.
All six wheels 'Track in line'. Hubs Flipped. Ah'la Zill, Ural etc.

 

[davidb56]

Your price on 395s isn't stated, but once you get 7 plus adaptors and wheels, that is not a cheap change. Don't forget to have the hubs flipped on the rear for dish out mounting of the single.

My preference is dual 11.00 on rear and A3 rim w/14.5r20 for steer.

I use that setup in the summer, but switch back in the winter to run my studded chains up front. It looks funny after having the Michelin 14.5's on.

 

[jdchristianiii]

You can buy "dually" chains. I have a set for my ford superduty. They dont get down between the tires if put on right, because they span both duals.

 

[Recovry4x4]

The Army itself used 11:00X20 tires on M 35s but 6 at a time. I can empathize with post 6 because shortly after installing 7 Michelin radials on M 35s the decision was made to canabilize them and the engines and transmissions were removed. So as the Army would not issue a new radial tire for your five ton driver, you went down to the can point, dismounted 11ea bias tires on your 5 ton and as the rims are different between a deuce and a 5 ton, demounted 11ea radial tires from the deuces which you them mounted on your 10 lug 5 ton rims. But there was more ! You then had the mount 6ea bias tires on deuce rims so the remains could be towed away. I could do one such conversion a day armed with a hammer, pic bars for the lock rings and a 1" impact wrench to take the wheels on and off. However those days are a long way back in the rear view mirror.

That makes you someone I wouldn't have wanted to meet in a dark alley. 22 dismounts and 22 mounts is a cubic ton or work for one day.

 

[davidb56]

You can buy "dually" chains. I have a set for my ford superduty. They dont get down between the tires if put on right, because they span both duals.

the tire clearance at the trunion is roughly 1.25 inches with 11/20's. Not enough to safely run chains. But if you try it and it works, let us know.

 

[snowplow]

Thanks for all the input! I think I'm more confused now than before, seems all other options than the stock 900X20 will need new wheels & may have other problems?

Seems to me the easiest option will be to stick with stock wheels & tires. I have found new tires that are a bit spendy & the used ones except for one source are 25+ yrs old like what I have; one source said they have 6-8 yr old 900's -- so I am thinking that will be the way to go ?

Sorry to be so uninformed, but I just have not kept up with all the tire options & gaining the info is not easy for me.

Thanks to all!!

 

[gringeltaube]

.... seems all other options than the stock 900X20 will need new wheels & may have other problems?

Not so. If you just wanted a slightly bigger tire (and about 5% higher top speed) you can always use your stock wheels, go up to the next size bias ply NDCC 11.00-20s - or even a more modern radial type (size 11.00R20) - and still run them dual on the rear axles.

 

[V8srfun]

Don’t be concerned about the wheel chatter no one has provided proof that it is unsafe to run bigger tires on the stock wheels. They will point out that the manufacture recommends a wider wheel for the larger tires but can not provide any reasoning for this recommendation. And the chatter about stressing the bearings is another one that makes sense when you think about it but there are no reports of failure that actually proves the wheel and tire combo to be culprit.

when You hear something enough times you start to believe it regardless of whether it is true or not and this situation is a valid example for that. It is your truck do what you want to it