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Almost destroyed my truck..
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might as well part it out or bob it so my deuces will be worth more .
You know they sell new Jeeps intended to be trashed out and it helps the economy as well .
You know they sell new Jeeps intended to be trashed out and it helps the economy as well .
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I was gonna say, you might want to run it by a high PSI pressure washer and take all that crud off. Gives you a better idea of what's wrong when you can see it.
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search for dog bone fix... strech had some good ideas..
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jeep-jeep...I dont think so
Yea, I'm gonna go buy a pressure washer for it..but I mean, the torque rod ends can be replaced if the bar is fine? or do I have to get the whole assy.
I do need to get underneath and check for any other damage...I checked a couple days before we went out there...to make sure everything looked to be in good working order...didnt see anything in bad condition...we'll see how that has changed, if there are any other problems
Yea, I'm gonna go buy a pressure washer for it..but I mean, the torque rod ends can be replaced if the bar is fine? or do I have to get the whole assy.
I do need to get underneath and check for any other damage...I checked a couple days before we went out there...to make sure everything looked to be in good working order...didnt see anything in bad condition...we'll see how that has changed, if there are any other problems
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I could not find it at first, had to search "torque rod".
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce-...ing/33684-torque-rod-dogbone-mod-removal.html
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sooo...this torque rod issue is actually more serious than I had imagined..
Stretch, thanks for the link!
Stretch, thanks for the link!
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i dont have words for this.
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OUCH ! Mud usually hides a lot of sins until it gets really serious ! Good Luck !
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Get one of those sweeping lawn sprinkler and put it under the truck for a few hours/days. It will help to keep the mud loose so it can be hosed off.
We've done several field repiars on those at more than one rally. Usually ends can be replaced. I keep a few extra dogbones around to facilitate speedy repairs.
I might add that folks also need to do a PCMS type or visual of inspection on their trucks before hitting the road again from a trail ride. Most times you can find critical issues such as this before risking an incident on the road. Branches and rocks can do some damage on the trail. A crisis brake situation with a broken dogbone like this often results in and axle displaced and the subsequent torn brake hose yields a no brake condition. Not ideal at all.
We've done several field repiars on those at more than one rally. Usually ends can be replaced. I keep a few extra dogbones around to facilitate speedy repairs.
I might add that folks also need to do a PCMS type or visual of inspection on their trucks before hitting the road again from a trail ride. Most times you can find critical issues such as this before risking an incident on the road. Branches and rocks can do some damage on the trail. A crisis brake situation with a broken dogbone like this often results in and axle displaced and the subsequent torn brake hose yields a no brake condition. Not ideal at all.
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I've made a rig where I have a lawn sprinkler on a rod that I place under parts of the vehicle. I hook this directly to hot water and the hot water really melts the mud out alot better than cold water.
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Would the grinding and poping noises be from the twisted angle of the axle forcing the U joints in the drive shafts to bind on themselves? It does look like the tires were close enough to touch while moving, if they did than the truck would probably hop and make wierd noises also.
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Yes...this was something I should have caught. I did not notice this before we lest due to EVERYTHING being the same color, and melted together from the mud. Im thankful no one was hurt, and I didnt lose an axle. After hearing the noise, I began driving extremely careful incase of an emergency! Always drive with a "way out"...if you have to drive off the road into a ditch/median/or wall, its better to damage the truck rather than hit someone else!
There was no physical difference in driving, no hopping or anything out of the ordinary. I'm going to put that torque rod back into the dog-bone for now just to re-align the axle...I dont like it sitting tilted the way it is right now...I'm going to also continue to pressure wash the truck today!
Only choice to make now is, do I need to get a new dog-bone even if this one is still in good condition? or can I get just the torque rod end..
There was no physical difference in driving, no hopping or anything out of the ordinary. I'm going to put that torque rod back into the dog-bone for now just to re-align the axle...I dont like it sitting tilted the way it is right now...I'm going to also continue to pressure wash the truck today!
Only choice to make now is, do I need to get a new dog-bone even if this one is still in good condition? or can I get just the torque rod end..
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What do you have against Jeeps?
The truck in my Avatar picture is a Jeep! (My Paid for Jeep!)
The truck in my Avatar picture is a Jeep! (My Paid for Jeep!)
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I had a similar situation on my old M275A2 and handled really freaky. It would try to turn for no aparent reason. The problem made itself very obvious. Perhaps your was not so noticable from having the weight of the bed where mine was a bobtail tractor..
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Just a thought from someone that's never experienced what happened, but is it possible that the big tires kept the axle from getting any further out of place. I wonder is the grinding was the treads rubbing against each other? Is it possible with standard size tires something tragic could have happened?
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"paid for"?What do you have against Jeeps?
The truck in my Avatar picture is a Jeep! (My Paid for Jeep!)
All of my vehicles are paid for..My Deuce, my Denali, and my Harley..
and I have nothing against jeeps
I said "i dont think so" to the *i believe sarcastic* comment from jeep-jeep
why the **** would I part out a perfectly good condition deuce because of a broken torque rod?...and why would I care if his deuce was worth more if I "parted" my truck out? it sounded like an a$$ comment...so, I replied politely with "I dont think so" and why would I purchase a new Jeep...who said I wanted a underpowered Chrysler product? I dont hit the trails...this deuce is a production grip truck...and I just happen to take it out for some fun sometimes...and %$^@ the economy
Back to more important things...I have no clue how Im going to rotate this axle back to its original position...but I'm trying...in anyone has ideas..USEFUL ideas (not .."buy a jeep")..feel free to let me know! I appreciate mostly everyone's very helpful input so far!
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glad to see you care about your truck .
I see posts about bobing and scraping way too much .
And yes I was a smart a$$ .
just testing the waters hoping there were still a few people trying to save the deuce
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Do you have a Hi-lift jack? With the clamp end on it, you could clamp the square axle tube and try to twist it. (like a giant lever)I've done this before with beams in my house, just a thought, I don't know exactly how you axles are situated right now.
Also, the torque rod ends, does it seem like a design flaw? If they are prone to popping out like we have all seen, why isn't there a bar or giant washer welded on them normally out of the box (opposite the threaded stud). I know that this is a way to quick repair to limp home, but wouldn't it make sence if they were fabbed this way to act like a keeper so this wouldn't ever happen?
Also, the torque rod ends, does it seem like a design flaw? If they are prone to popping out like we have all seen, why isn't there a bar or giant washer welded on them normally out of the box (opposite the threaded stud). I know that this is a way to quick repair to limp home, but wouldn't it make sence if they were fabbed this way to act like a keeper so this wouldn't ever happen?