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Nhc-250 vs 6cta dump truck

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Williamchris92

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Am looking at a m929 dump truck wanted to get everyone’s opinion on the NHC-250 vs the 6CTA used in a dump truck for primarily site work. I have a land clearing business so it will be used daily and needs to hold up we are in South Georgia so flat land no hills. I have heard the NHC is better for slow use. Also want to make sure parts are available without much searching, as I can’t have the dump be down for weeks waiting on parts. Just thought I would see if anybody has experience which one or both in a similar application.
 
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Williamchris92 said:
Am looking at a m929 dump truck wanted to get everyone’s opinion on the NHC-250 vs the 6CTA used in a dump truck for primarily site work. I have a land clearing business so it will be used daily and needs to hold up we are in South Georgia so flat land no hills. I have heard the NHC is better for slow use. Also want to make sure parts are available without much searching, as I can’t have the dump be down for weeks waiting on parts. Just thought I would see if anybody has experience which one or both in a similar application.
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Well, if you want the "cool factor" of a Military Vehicle (MV) then go for it! If you want to own a commercial dump truck and it isn't so old that you can't find parts for it - go for that instead. The NHC will run until it just lays down because of wear. 300,000 miles isn't out of the realm of possibility. Just got to know that owning a MV means you will need MV parts. They are generally more expensive and YOU are going to need to do the work yourself...
 
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You’ll want the 250 for site work unless exhaust noise is a big issue the 8.3 is much quieter. The 8.3 has a hard time getting rolling in high range with heavy loads on soft ground, run in low range you’re likely to have an operator split the transfercase in half.
 
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Williamchris92 said:
Am looking at a m929 dump truck wanted to get everyone’s opinion on the NHC-250 vs the 6CTA used in a dump truck for primarily site work. I have a land clearing business so it will be used daily and needs to hold up we are in South Georgia so flat land no hills. I have heard the NHC is better for slow use. Also want to make sure parts are available without much searching, as I can’t have the dump be down for weeks waiting on parts. Just thought I would see if anybody has experience which one or both in a similar application.
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Hey man welcome from north ga. I absolutely love my a2 truck but unfortunately for site work the a1/0 is the better truck. Every single other use the a2 is better IMO. Basically any highway use get an a2.
 
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Thanks for the responses. I should add the truck will be driven to the sites, that is part of the reason we are looking at something like this as opposed to a haul truck, is the off-road capability but it is road legal. Don’t know if that changes anything. So could be around an hour or two getting to the sites then onsite working.
 
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Williamchris92 said:
Thanks for the responses. I should add the truck will be driven to the sites, that is part of the reason we are looking at something like this as opposed to a haul truck, is the off-road capability but it is road legal. Don’t know if that changes anything. So could be around an hour or two getting to the sites then onsite working.
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Occasional on highway use unloaded will do just fine. Not a speed demon by any means though. Loaded at 45+ is where the stock NA NHC 250 gets painful.
 
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Williamchris92 said:
Thanks for the responses. I should add the truck will be driven to the sites, that is part of the reason we are looking at something like this as opposed to a haul truck, is the off-road capability but it is road legal. Don’t know if that changes anything. So could be around an hour or two getting to the sites then onsite working.
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If you want something bigger that can to offroad and down the highway then I've got a 917 that would work well 19yd dump bed. Pusher axle and 6x6.
 
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Again thanks everyone for your input. How is the parts availability for things like fuel filters fan belts oil filters that kind of thing at a Napa. I have a lead on a a1 and an a2 both for $25k they both look in good shape what are y’all’s thoughts on price?
 
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Jbulach said:
The 8.3 has a hard time getting rolling in high range with heavy loads on soft ground, run in low range you’re likely to have an operator split the transfercase in half.
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So I hear this alot, although have never seen an example of it .

The A1 and A2 both having auto trans, only the A2 has a weak T-case that cannot be used in reverse low range under any circumstances ?

I would like to understand this more better .
 
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So I hear this alot, although have never seen an example of it .

The A1 and A2 both having auto trans, only the A2 has a weak T-case that cannot be used in reverse low range under any circumstances ?

I would like to understand this more better .
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Two separate issues.

The first is that the 8.3 has a hard time starting from zero when loaded heavy.

The second is the weak T Case. The weak t case is in all 939series trucks. It's just that the 8.3's weakness off the line is more likely to tempt you to use low range in reverse.
 
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Two separate issues.

The first is that the 8.3 has a hard time starting from zero when loaded heavy.

The second is the weak T Case. The weak t case is in all 939series trucks. It's just that the 8.3's weakness off the line is more likely to tempt you to use low range in reverse.
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Yeah I know the 8.3 is a gutless turd in stock form, I just didn't bother to take that part out of the quote .

So the 900 series trucks have a weaker T-case than the 800 series trucks ?

I've never actually seen one broken, they're humongous, but I've heard about it a lot on here, seems ridiculous to not able to use them in low range reverse, that's something I would imagine would be necessary on a job site .
 
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Yeah I know the 8.3 is a gutless turd in stock form, I just didn't bother to take that part out of the quote .

So the 900 series trucks have a weaker T-case than the 800 series trucks ?

I've never actually seen one broken, they're humongous, but I've heard about it a lot on here, seems ridiculous to not able to use them in low range reverse, that's something I would imagine would be necessary on a job site .
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Reverse in the MT654 is 10:1. Adding low range in the T case puts enough torque on it to split the case. I've seen it more than once.

Absolutely don't do it unless you want to buy a t case.
 
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