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What have you done to your 5 ton this week?

Wreckclues

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Cobbled together a cargo spare tire holder, or at least that's what I think this structure on the truck is for. Can't find it in the TM's, but it lines up with the lugs holes perfectly.
I used all thread a couple eye bolts, fender washers a 2X6 and 2X12 to isolate the tire from the bed. Holds the tire securely in place. Am I close?
 

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Valley Rock

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I used it to haul my M1102 trailer full of junk to a local Military show/swap meet .

Small turn out due to Labor day wknd, but still fun, saw lots of people I don't get to see otherwise, and consumed some delicious Mexican food .

Here's some pics ...
 

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Wreckclues

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Changed the oil and now the engine won't shut off "normally" that is.
I either have to use the emergency shutoff valve or repeatedly turn the battery switch on and off.
It's not a runaway, it's idling at 500RPM with no hesitation in the throttle.
It's just that the ignition switch, battery switch and dual battery kill switch won't shut it off. Everything starts fine, it's charging, airs up and the oil pressure is between 60 and 90. Used 7 gallons of 15W40 Rotella T4, replaced the filter, nothing leaking and the oil level is between Low and High when hot.
Did I jostle something removing the filter? A Protective Control Box issue? Oil Pressure Lockout Switch? Fuel Shutoff Solenoid?
 

Valley Rock

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@Wreckclues

Removing the electronic fuel shut off solenoid on my 5 ton and throwing it in the trash was one of the better mods I ever made, the manual cut off works fantastic .

Edit: Looks like my truck is newer/different than yours, I have the 8.3
 
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Bill Nutting

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I had that problem some years ago. I took the fuel shut off solenoid apart and cleaned it. A speck of dirt will cause them to stick open. Once it was cleaned, it’s been working fine. While I was having that problem I got tired of opening the hood to reset the manual shut off. I installed a spring to pull the manual lever back into place. I left that little mod in there in case I need it again.
 

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Took a hammer to the solenoid and got the engine to shut off electrically, but now the engine is hard to start and runs rough. Figure the valve is only partially open now. Also noticed a leak in the manual shutoff. Found the TM to remove the solenoid and manual valve but can't find anything on the solenoid or valve themselves. What can I expect upon taking the solenoid apart? Anything that should be replaced or can I just clean the parts?
If I were to delete the solenoid how do I direct connect the manual shutoff to the pump or can I just gut the solenoid and leave the internal valve open?

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What can I expect upon taking the solenoid apart? Anything that should be replaced or can I just clean the parts?
If I were to delete the solenoid how do I direct connect the manual shutoff to the pump or can I just gut the solenoid and leave the internal valve open?
1: The solenoid is a simple item to clean up .. There is a spring in there (maybe two, it's been many years) but it comes apart and goes together easy , only about 3 pieces in there

At one time I had trouble with an M818 solenoid so i gutted it and ran it for a few weeks using the emergency pull to shut down .. The only "bad" part of that is being up in the seat the next day to crank it but forgetting to reach up under the inner fender plate opening to flip the shutoff lever to "run" position , no need to open the hood if you remove the appropriate under-fender access place , for lack of having a correctly-sized return spring on-hand..

2: As far as the emergency shutoff (manual) valve goes, I haven't had one of those apart but you should be able to remove at least the lever and retainer nut in order to clean up the stem and clean or replace the packing seal (maybe it's an Oh-Oh ring).. Some valves will allow you to remove the guts for cleaning, some don't .
 
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msgjd

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PS; although it doesn't show on the TM illustration, your truck has a fuel solenoid bypass "screw" on it , it's at the front with knurled knob ... Some cummins 855's have it, some don't.. I don't recall which way it turns for bypass (in or out), but it would be opposite of what is is right now .. It was in bypass mode when i bought the truck, thus in order to see what that was all about I put it back into normal position and it worked as it should for years until now .. Just thought I'd put another PT-pump accessory factoid out there for you ;)
 

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Took the fuel shutoff solenoid apart and I'm not sure what I'm looking at.
Was expecting a spring, what I have is something akin to a wave washer enacting upon a diaphragm?
I assume when the electromagnet is activated the wave washer/spring is pulled flat allowing fuel pressure to move the diaphragm which mates to the valve seat on the valve body, allowing fuel to pass. I'm not sure if the "spring" is supposed to be free floating or attached to the diaphragm?
When enacted, the bypass screw msgjd mentioned, would push the diaphragm off its seat but in my case not by much as it had no effect on the fuel starvation problem I'm experiencing. Perhaps the problem is with the electromagnet or the connection to it. In either case I've ordered a new one from C&C Equipment.

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Took the fuel shutoff solenoid apart and I'm not sure what I'm looking at.
Was expecting a spring, what I have is something akin to a wave washer enacting upon a diaphragm?
I assume when the electromagnet is activated the wave washer/spring is pulled flat allowing fuel pressure to move the diaphragm which mates to the valve seat on the valve body, allowing fuel to pass. I'm not sure if the "spring" is supposed to be free floating or attached to the diaphragm?
When enacted, the bypass screw msgjd mentioned, would push the diaphragm off its seat but in my case not by much as it had no effect on the fuel starvation problem I'm experiencing. Perhaps the problem is with the electromagnet or the connection to it. In either case I've ordered a new one from C&C Equipment.

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Maybe check continuity on that electromagnet where the wires would connect. Can't see in the pic.
 
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