M35A2 Winch Operations

5 ton winch

will the winch off the 5ton fit on a deuce.. or are the frame rail too close on the deuce to fit the 5 ton winch....

and what is the manufacturer of the deuce winch or is there just one...

what about rear mounting a winch on the deuce

is there any website to visit where it shouw the variations of the 6x6.. i heard you can mount a PTO driven winch in the M36.... at any rate i want a power source for my M36

I think the cable (wire rope) is actually 6x19 improved plow steel fiber core, 7/16" I have never heard of 6x9 wire rope designation.

In IPS, it is about 18k rated breaking strength. With the wedge socket, it should be at least 15k breaking strength. Using 2-part line recovery, it will easily haul an unloaded deuce from axle depth mud in neutral. Voice of experience here

Any chance of a higher quality scan of those pages. They are rather hard to read on a larger screen.

TehTDK said:

Any chance of a higher quality scan of those pages. They are rather hard to read on a larger screen.

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They come through fine on my screen. The manual should also be in the technical manual section on SS.

hndrsonj, do you have the number for it?. And I mean I can read it, but I have to zoom on the image and it then quickly gets rather grainy...

Tm 9-2320-361-10 & -20.

Stretch44875 said:

That would be mine.... It's been posted here in another thread, but good to have here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxnFB_Lz-ss

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Thanks for this! I've always done it with 2 people (one on outside to lock drum) but now I can see how to do it alone. I've always made sure there is no one anywhere near pull area as I know it might never happen but I've got a fear of cable snap or slap hurting someone.

The Garwood "self recovery" winch on M35A2 is not for, or was not meant to be, for pulling stumps.
So I say the big secret and be quite then after, ..............yeah, maybe.
Winch operation is a two or more soldier job, and would be good to lock the hood open.
The thing is high maintenance, better if used then forgotten.

With winch cable played out ahead to fixed fortification one clears the area, puts truck in Transfer low and Transmission in low forward and engage Winch and truck gearbox at same time. With proper operation one doesn't need a tank, tracked thing to get unstuck. Climb mountains and such a cable reel at a time, well, 100 feet or so. It is meant to help, not be the sole source of pulling.

Most all of them are broke or rotted.

That winch can , indeed, be used for pulling stumps or anything else, really. Be aware that the winch is designed to be used for horizontal pulls only. I redesigned the winching mechanism as a hydraulic - driven winch, with overload protection. If you use that winch for ANYTHING, make sure that ONLY the proper aluminum shear pin is used. Use a bolt and the worm gear will come right out of the front of the winch assembly, destroying the winch.

krogerma said:

That winch can , indeed, be used for pulling stumps or anything else, really. Be aware that the winch is designed to be used for horizontal pulls only. I redesigned the winching mechanism as a hydraulic - driven winch, with overload protection. If you use that winch for ANYTHING, make sure that ONLY the proper aluminum shear pin is used. Use a bolt and the worm gear will come right out of the front of the winch assembly, destroying the winch.

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When I got my truck, years ago, soldier B had installed a grade 8 bolt through the shear pin hole, which I found while inspecting the winch. Soldier B probably did that because he was fed up with having to get underneath and replace yet another shear pin. I agree that this is a disaster waiting to happen with any mechanical winch. The shear pin is SUPPOSED to be the weakest link, by design, and break. If the pin is strong, the next available weak part will break - usually the brass worm gear and/or winch casing.

Look at the edges of the shear pin hole, if you have issues with the pin breaking too often or at loads it should be able to handle. If the holes are wallowed out, the pin will shear off sooner. The holes may have to be drilled out and a larger pin used, or welded and re-drilled.

The winch on my deuce is hydraulically powered. I run a small hydraulic pump off the PTO and an hydraulic motor to drive the winch. I needed to use it for lifting (in a crane configuration) when I was working on my farm. I had two parallel relief valves set at the proper value so as to require the same torque as the shear pin required. You can't you a shear pin for overhead lifting safely, of coursre. I also have a 24-volt electric hyraulic setup with the innards coming from a forklift. It's half-finished. I'm going to sell t at some point. I had a 200/50 amp alternator fro a big military ambulance to power the thing.

krogerma said:

The winch on my deuce is hydraulically powered. I run a small hydraulic pump off the PTO and an hydraulic motor to drive the winch. I needed to use it for lifting (in a crane configuration) when I was working on my farm. I had two parallel relief valves set at the proper value so as to require the same torque as the shear pin required. You can't you a shear pin for overhead lifting safely, of coursre. I also have a 24-volt electric hyraulic setup with the innards coming from a forklift. It's half-finished. I'm going to sell t at some point. I had a 200/50 amp alternator fro a big military ambulance to power the thing.

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Could you post some pics of your setup? Going hydraulic would be a safety improvement, especially for one-person winch ops.

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I have an M35A3 with the hydraulic winch. Man, that thing is really easy to use.