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M1009 NEW INJECTOR PUMP SMOKING

wreini

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Hello, I just put on a new rebuilt injector pump because of a hard hot start issue I was having. New pump went in no problem, I aligned the timing marks to the timing cover. and it started right up and idled great. the problem I'm having is that it spits out a ton of black smoke now when I floor it. not just a puff. more like a quarter mile long haze. has pretty good response and it will even speed on the highway now. Smoke goes away once I make it up to speed. only appears under load. It did not smoke at all with the old pump.

I've tried to correct it by advancing the timing about 1/8th of an inch past the mark and several increments in between. It seemed to help a bit. but without putting some weight into it it wont go any further and I don't want to cause another problem by going too far. I've also turned down the fuel screw in the pump about 1/8 of a turn.
I have an electric lift pump installed, all fuel filters and air filter are new. I'm hoping someone can point me in a direction and I'm just having a moment. I'm supposed to drive it out to Colorado next week for a camping trip. All I've done to test timing is push in the advance. it will slow down a bit but doesn't stumble like i've read online.

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wreini

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Is there any rule of thumb about fully seating that screw and turn it back 2 turns like on a carburettor? I can keep backing it off 1/4 turns at a time but it’s time consuming if there’s a better way without having a test stand.
 

wreini

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Db2 4544 but every thing I have read/watched says tightening that will straighten out the leaf spring in the pump and give you more fuel. But also looking at that, if it seats on a spring there is no way to bottom it out.
 

antennaclimber

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I set the timing on my recently rebuilt 6.2 engine just last night. Aligned the timing mark on the IP with the one on the engine.

Lots of smoke and not running correctly. As with my other 6.2's that received a new IP, I rotated the IP toward the passenger side, made it much worse.
Finally after several adjustments, the IP timing mark ended up about 3/16" on the drivers side of the engine timing mark. None of the other trucks I own have them to the drivers side. I never expected that it would be that far off toward the drivers side.

Positive side effect from testing in the garage, I am now immune to Carbon Monoxide...
 

wreini

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Looks like the fuel was turned up way too high. I backed it off a whole turn and still have a little more to go. Now it’s down to a light haze. I’ll take it apart again tomorrow and do a little more. When I was messing with timing previously I went to both extremes advanced and retarded and every thing in between and it was still smoking either way.
 

deank

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Sounds like you have it figured out. Please post pictures of the fuel delivery screw with it highlighted. I am having the same issue but do not know where the adjustment is made.
Thank you.
 

Sharecropper

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If I was a machinist, I would design & produce a replacement triangle-shaped plate for the side access of the DB2 pumps with a sealed, spring-loaded plunge device with the internal end being a hex key to facilitate turning the fuel up/down externally. The external shape of the spring-loaded plunge device can be a flange nut so that a small box-end wrench can be used to both depress the device as well as to turn it. After disconnecting the battery, the idea would be to depress the spring-loaded plunger device while a buddy hand-turned the engine with a pull handle at the crank until the hex-shaped internal end of the plunge device dropped into the hex opening of the adjustment screw inside. After this procedure is done once, the exact position of the adjustment screw can then be noted and recorded by the timing mark on the harmonic balancer, making it easy to return to the exact position for additional screw adjustments. A device such as this would make fuel adjustments on the DB2 mechanical pumps easy without having to go through all the hassle we currently have to go through. I believe I can design such a device if a machinist would like to take a swing at such an endeavor. There may be marketing potential to help fund the initial development. If anybody knows a machinist who might want to explore something like this, PM me.
 
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