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thanks beastmaster,18" sounds about right, 6" overlap and moves the bumper 12"...Jon

this wknd would be great, I'll give you a call sat ,thanks. still here,but my phone don't like the new site and that's what I'm always on...Jon

pics the winch has those? where does the linkage go? guess I'll read some more.

I know it's somewhere but i'll be darned if I can find it. I just need the dimensions of the frame ext's for a front 5 ton winch. just got a 20000 garwood w/ rollers, no tensioner or winder, paid 350 delivered. my m52a2 is not really restorable, but more of a work truck, so I plan on making the...