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Ernie thanks for the offer, I'm sure I will contact you shortly, preferably before the snow fly's jeese......snow....... Jay

Bruce, they look like they go all the way, I'll find out soon enough. I was going to plasma cut the plate out the grind off any I miss, you think I should just grind the welds? not cut? I dont think it would be to difficult to grind , kinda a shoddy welding job. And yes apparently it was done...

ok here are a couple more pics. in the pics you can see the plate is about 2.5 feet it goes to just about the end (front ) of the fuel tank on both sides with a piece of 2 inch angle to hold the fuel tank up very creative Yankee ingenuity- Also the frame itself appears intact from what I can see...

Ya the frame tails appear to be intact. It looks like some kind of plate has been welded in. From the looks of it (I cant see looking up from underneath the inside due to plate) but the shackles seem to be bolted in with the original bolts? I will try to get a better pic of exactly what they did...

*sigh....... yep gonna need them also thanks for pics Bruce. Lee, you may have a point, I'm hoping once I pull the bed that I just see some plate welded onto the frame tails & it'll be pretty simple to plasma cut out........I hope... if not I guess I'll have to scab in some new tails.

Bruce anywhere I can find a pic of the gusset?

Guys thanks for all the pics I think Tim has exactly what I"m looking for I'm sure I'll have many more questions

wow that was fast! Jay thanks for the info. Bruce thank you also for all the pics. in your second set of pics, the second pic is the part I need. Thank you also Tim I will be emailing you shortly Jay

Hi Guys, Picked up my 37 several months ago, old FD truck but fairly intact. I noticed today when figuring out my plan of attack, that the rear cross member where pintle and bumperets attach had apparently been removed, and replaced with a "hunk" of plate steel, bolted and very sloppily...