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I ended up taking my (5 ) tires to my tires shop and they broke them down for $125 total but the guy told me he would not reassemble them due to his insurance regulations which was fine by me as I wanted to paint them anyway. Reassembly was a piece of cake and I have since rebroken...
Dang that worked!!
I tried using the bucket on my front loader to break the bead on my tires and only managed to tear up my front yard., Heck at that point I was contenplating setting the tire(s) on fire and melting it off, thank god common sense ( aka my wife ) kicked in and made me bring them...