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We aloe used the power units as PUSH dozers, pushing on other scrapers to help load, with the tires full of water (didn't have to worry about freezing) a lot of tractive force was to be had, about the only place you did not want to use them was ROCK, a spinning a tire would kill it real quick...

Thank you, Could not remember what the Clark number was, the 830 was cat, based on a big wheeled loader, also there was a M.R.S. unit that looked about the same, forgot its m number also, as I remember, the scraper pan would attach to any of the three power units. I don't remember any BIG JD...

Look like m830s, the power unit for a 30?yd scraper, could be used as a rubber tired dozer if the scraper pan was dropped