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let me add to that a little bit too - If you're not on a good prepared surface, use red ox. If you're coming from a bare metal and want premium results, use the epoxy.

I use red oxide on bare cheap metal projects. If you've got some "pings" in the paint from media blasting, or you want a LIFETIME paint job, use the epoxy. I used it on my friend's 997 Porsche and his Cobra Roadster and HOLY COW there is a huge difference. Red Ox needs to have more coats put...