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  1. Retiredwarhorses

    6.5 W/ Over Drive vs 6.2 W/ 3 Speed

    the chassis on these m1123's are all 12k components, they are identical to my M1097A2. Probably an ECV chassis, definitely not REV...but that's obvious. 12k hubs, halfshafts, larger rotors, frame rails are beefier. Best bet is to find out what years the M1123 was produced, these have the first...
  2. Retiredwarhorses

    6.5 W/ Over Drive vs 6.2 W/ 3 Speed

    Also, you have to be real careful on the model years, there have been plenty of m998's sold at GP that are data plated as 2004 and later and they are just a 6.2, 3 spd truck. Data plates are just like speedometers in the military, though not as bad. If the DP was missing or was removed and lost...
  3. Retiredwarhorses

    6.5 W/ Over Drive vs 6.2 W/ 3 Speed

    All bets are off for any hmmwv having gone through reset...depot rebuilt motors should have rebuild tag from that base. there is no hard and fast though, generally the easiest way to tell if you have a rebuilt motor is if the entire motor painted black. On non-rebuilt motors the intake manifold...
  4. Retiredwarhorses

    6.5 W/ Over Drive vs 6.2 W/ 3 Speed

    Really? People are paying 14k and more for 6.2 equipped trucks, the M1123 is not only 6.5NA but 4L80E equipped along with full 12k chassis and running gear. They are worth 20k without a motor. People want to whine about GM 6.5 but disregard there are millions of them in use worldwide. 99.9% of...
  5. Retiredwarhorses

    6.5 W/ Over Drive vs 6.2 W/ 3 Speed

    From what I've seen, they are Melton rebuilds, GM motor. Does not mean they might not have a GEP motor, but unless I see the decal on the valve cover, all bets are off.
  6. Retiredwarhorses

    6.5 W/ Over Drive vs 6.2 W/ 3 Speed

    The GP M1123's don't have GEP motors....a GEP Motor is a GEP motor, but....the term is called "detuned" the v-belt trucks got "whatever 6.5 mfg,be it GM or GEP" a replacement motor that was equipped with v-belt pulleys, water pump etc, to be a drop in replacement for the discontinued 6.2. The...
  7. Retiredwarhorses

    6.5 W/ Over Drive vs 6.2 W/ 3 Speed

    they still haul butt compared to the detuned 6.5 with TH400.
  8. Retiredwarhorses

    6.5 W/ Over Drive vs 6.2 W/ 3 Speed

    M1123's are 6.5NA with 4 Spd trans....they are not turbos.
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