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That is a valid question. I would wonder how if the coolant is stagnant as he claims that it could have even got there in the first place. It isn't like they filled the block with coolant and put the plates on. In order for the fluid to flow as he claims the pressure would have to be...

Totally agree. The problem is that this guy defends his product with theory and has zero verifiable proof that his product is better than the other designs out there or that his product does anything at all. Instead of testing he puts his resources into pretty paint colors and flashy web...

Cool write up, but still no test results? BTW, how were you able to determine that the coolant is stagnant? Is there some anti-convection process that occurs that stops there?

Again, please show the data. As Retiredwarhorses stated in post #15 which was responded to by Joe He further made this statement Sounds to me like all this existing supportive data may be wrong because he claims to have done something different, but again, no real data to support this...

How is that? By trying to hold someone accountable for his claims? Not sure why that bores you, but the guy made claims and won't support them. Funny you will cry about me, but won't say a word to someone who is selling a product that he can't support a single claim and at best hopes that...

Why should this guy get a free pass? Maybe you should go back and read #15 and #16. A legitimate vendor would post real data to support their product instead of nonsense making claims that he is selling his product to the army as legitimacy of his kit and why it is better than any other...

Are we to believe that the DOD is purchasing a product that has absolutely no verifiable data as to it's claimed functionality? This just gets better and better. :goodjob:

Absolutely this can be compared to the Tornado for reasons that are exactly as you state. People thought the Torando was improving flow. Sure it didn't hurt anything, but it didn't add any value. All that it did was drain your wallet and make people think something was happening that really...

Wait, are you now claiming that your device offers "improved drivability, added power, improved MPG, and reduced fan running times"? Wow, a real magic bullet. I can't wait to see the data that supports this claim!!

Just to quite those that want to defend Joe, this was post #16 from 6 months ago. Still absolutely zero data. Not bashing, just patiently waiting.

Please share these results of the 'significant' testing. As has been asked multiple times, you have shared zero and only when others have posted results that don't fall in line with what you are claiming to achieve do you state that their odd results are normal and to be expected. Of most...

Good grief. If you want to defend this guy do it with data. I am not attacking anyone. Just asking questions that Joe is afraid to answer. I am not assuming anything which is exactly why I ask questions. I want proof. Either this works or it doesn't.

So let me get this straight. He makes claims that his kit is better than other. I question this, and you are perfectly ok that he can't support a single claim with any sort of data, but I am the bad guy for questioning him? I assume you are the same guy running a 'Tornado' and have magnets to...

An idea that has been asked over and over, but ole Joe either has not tested a product that he builds and sells or has tested and received unfavorable results. Either way, I couldn't live with myself selling something like that. Not a naysayer, but just someone that doesn't throw money at...

I wonder if the forum has rules regarding advertising?

Totally agree and exactly what I have stated. We all want a magic bullet and guys like Billy Mayes made a fortune off of hawking products that fill that want. To get proper testing you would need access to a lab on the scale that no shade tree would have access too. Although I think a simple...

I get the feeling that no matter what someone's test result that Joe is not going to be surprised by the result. My big, huge concern is that he has no idea where or how much coolant is flowing through his device. I would be seriously concerned if my fan kicked on less. That is a very good...

I never said that I thought that Joe was knowingly selling something that he knew was worthless. I think he is convinced that it is a performance improvement. I have been simply asking for the proof that it adds a benefit with factual data that supports this claim. Merely selling a product...

Ryan, you are free to believe whatever you want. I base my beliefs on facts and not marketing and gimmicks. Joe has not produced a single bit of data supporting his claims. He has made a claim of removing stagnant coolant. I would love to know how he determines that. Seems to me that if it...

No offense, but you have not posted any specs. The only results that have been posted were by someone that bought the kit and they were not exactly favorable. Your response that his increased temps kind of go against your theory and your response that it is normal to see increased temps in the...