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I'll look into it, but I was under the impression from those I talked to that Iraq wasn't getting the full Abrams package. I imagine they'd even be happy if we sold them m60-2000m, and they probably wouldn't even know the difference. I'm going to go on a limb here and say that until tracks are...

I wonder what the next evolution of US armor is going to be? The Abrams is going on 30 years pretty soon (Came out in 81/82 or so?). I wonder what will replace it.

Yep. Wait till we put DU, Chobham, and ERA ontop of the Abrams turret. Yeah, let's see if they'll go through that. Probably add 3-4 more tons to an already heavy tank, but the ability to survive tank killers cannot be ignored.

I can't view Youtube from here, but are you referring to the blazer ERA?

I stand corrected. The whole reasoning for selling Iraq American weapons is: 1) To make Iraq counter out Iran's influence..Cold war era M60s aren't going to cut it. Neither are scads of obsolete russian stuff. 2) Togive Iraqis the teeth so we don't have to be there 3) To get work for our...

Egypt gets kits from the Lima, ohio plant and assembles them there in egypt. They don't get the DU/chobham armor. I think only the AUstralians might, maybe the Kuwaitis?

Re: RE: Iraq Looks Into Buying 36 Fighting Falcons It'll take more than one to put an abrams out of commission. That DU/chobham stuff is tough.

You're forgetting one thing. They have to buy parts from us. If they piss us off, we withhold the parts, and their planes don't fly. Much like Iran's f-14s, of which very few fly now because they've cannibalized so many of them after 30 or so years. And Iraq is getting Export model ABrams-not...