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RE: Maybe Lights are greatly overrated unless you plan on digging at night. :-) You will find a lot of uses for it. My favorite is using mine to pick up M105s while I change a tire. No, I don't get under it in any way shape or form. I don't trust my hoe that much. steve

RE: Ford 4500 If it comes down to a diesel or gas I would prefer diesel if all other things are equal. Mine only has a 3-cylinder diesel in it and does what I need. Ford 455C made in Holland about 16 years old.

For the MV tie in that's my Ford (New Holland) behind my Deuce. It is a '92 and has the three cyl diesel in it. It's the 455 and other than some cosmetic things it is a good machine. I have put about 30-35 hours on it in 2.5 years. It cost north of $13k and everyone who has seen it say...