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This thread popped up and I'll update a couple things. Running dish out A3 on a stock 105 puts the load entirely on the outer bearing...and wheels must be beveled for wheel nuts. While eventually I will modify my rims for the deuce, it's too much $$ for a 105. So...I'm going to bolster...

This is the M105A1 axle?

Thank you very much G. Bearing placement on the axle and this swap have been debated both ways (in favor and against) and it will be great to have a definitive answer to what is required for dish out mounting (and have bearings approximately centered on the wheels).

Okay G, Without having these in front of me or scale drawings I have to admit, the numbers get confusing. Your drawings help significantly. But is this comparison a comparison for use of the M105A2 bearing in a deuce hub on the deuce axle or the M105A2 axle? I missed what you are pointing...

There....you have the solution...use the wheel as the brake drum.

Check Chris....I'll PU when I get the 105. Is there a Wisconsin rally and are you going? Maybe Haspin.

That's what I intended to say...that the M105A2 axle will require the M105A2 axle bearings put into in the deuce hub. Note I still don't have shoulder to shoulder dimensions to confirm same placement in the hub. I don't see why they would not be....but this is government stuff. Now all I have...

What do you mean by "the larger bearing"? Od is the same, 4.4375" on all hubs, only the ID of the bearing is changed. They should interchange with no "boring out" at all. if you are using an M105A2 axle, you must use the bearings for the M105A2 hub. If for whatever reason you put an M105A2...

If they take the 39590, they are 4.4375" OD, same as the M105A2 hub and the M35, they are likely to interchange, if you use the M105A2 bearings. Clearly the axles have different diameters...no problem. Now the question for both the M35 and M135/211 hubs and the M105A2 hubs, is the spacing of...

Okay, using those numbers I see all three have 4.375" outer diameter but they vary for the inside diameter. The deuce inner is 2.625" and outer is 2.4375". The M105A2 is 2.625 inside diameter both inner and outer. Bearing widths are the same. So, while not considering the width of the...

Back to dish out wheel use. Instead of machining off the flange, as I proposed, would the hub from the deuce fit our 105 axle? "Reversed" of course? I go to the TM that G has posted and find the bearing numbers on each A1 and A2. Unfortunately they don't mean much to me. The A1 has 702, 704...

Yes DBM, that means half the distance is under 10" and thus they will be just under the legal limit of 8'6". I have not wrapped my head around what G said in the last post. Seems there are 2 styles of brake drums and one may interfere with these Isuzu 16" budd's while the other won't. Gentry...

That's so cool 4XDesign I love the gooseneck change too. I'm sticking to pintle to keep the bed open. Good looking rigs! Now you need singles on the tandem (with the dish out).

LOL thank you. That is the wheel that GentrysGarage must have to put on his. He is concerned it will hit the brake drum. If it is not more than about 10" over the tire to the mount face, it should be just under the legal limit. With only 6" wide of rim with, I bet it will clear the drum (I...

This is great, thank you G. I'll try and restate the axle dimensions over the outside of the wheels as I understand them; 76" ---- width of a M105 with one half of a deuce bud wheel on each side and the dish in. (standard M105) 88" -----width of an M35 truck with duals and 9.00 tires 102"...

Anything you know about the subject would be very appreciated. Bringing me a cherry 105 at a very low price would be even more appreciated.

One member posted a picture of his M105 on 395's which sparked my interest. I can't locate it now to know how he did the wheels but I thought it was worth starting a thread, since use of the super single on the 105 axle is within the legal width limit. Simply dueling them up, is not...

Thanks G. you said: Is that the distance on an A3 truck with the dish out and in the "flipped" position (the narrowest face to face)?

I believe the axle modification would work for dish out mounting using adaptors and other wheels with dish out, but that is not what I have to work with, I have A3 wheels. Please post items for making the axle of an M105 trailer to properly fit the super single wheels of any make or description...

Thanks Bob... thought so. I'm anxious for GentrysGarage to try some Isuzu duals that are 16's on one. Right now bolster and M1061 tire/wheels are on my want list. I could see using the axle for a multi-axle 2 or 3 axle trailer and keep the deck really low, with the proper tires and wheels...