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    Idaho title change!!!!!

    That's the AAMVA, but I have been unable to locate any specific info on that topic. But while we're at it, FYI, more evidence of FMVSS-compliance by milvehs: Here's a clip from Army Regulation 385-55 dated 12 March, 1987 about Prevention of Motor Vehicle Accidents. Interesting reading...
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    Idaho title change!!!!!

    Yeah, maybe. Maybe not. Here's the definition of "conditional title" straight from Idaho: Conditional title: A title issued for a vehicle ten or more years old when the applicant is unable to present ownership documentation sufficient to satisfy normal titling requirements. Conditional...
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    Idaho title change!!!!!

    Hmmm. Obviously, it's a good idea to ensure that the VIN matches the title when buying a vehicle. Since you're buying from a (presumably licensed) motor vehicle dealer, it's probably an honest mistake and will be rectified promptly and you get a matching title. Hope it all works out...
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    Idaho title change!!!!!

    Be very cautious about the specific wording, so as to make it do exactly what you want, and not do what you don't want done... I like the line about the vehicles having been manufactured in accordance w/ dod mil safety standards, as it acknowledges the MIL-STD requirements. Even mentioning the...
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    Idaho title change!!!!!

    Commofreq, Good reading! I believe you are correct. IMO, the words "under title 49 CFR part 500-599" are crucial. Without that, your situation would be different. This is a perfect example of how important it is to read the actual statute/s involved. Each state has it's own laws, even...
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    Idaho title change!!!!!

    Well, perhaps. Here's a download version of FMVSS by year, direct from NHTSA: https://www.nhtsa.gov/staticfiles/communications/pdf/Lives-Saved-Tech-Timeline.pdf EDIT: Please not how FEW FMVSS requirements apply to a 1971 truck! I don't find anything in there about the exemption - just...
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    Idaho title change!!!!!

    IMHO, you're wrong and right. (But you know how opinions are...) Being exempted from a requirement is not the same as meeting the requirement. You would be correct in stating that it meets all applicable requirements, but you still haven't proven that it meets all of the requirements. But...
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    Idaho title change!!!!!

    Commofreq, Do us all a favor and google AAMVA and "best practices". Organized effort? Draw your own conclusions. What goes on in one state absolutely effects what happens in other states. This may even have begun here in Wis. At one time, the DMV Administrator, Lynne Judd, was also the...
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    Idaho title change!!!!!

    To All, Please be advised that there are in fact TWO bills currently before the Idaho legislature. As previously mentioned, House Bill-506 would allow civilians to register former military vehicles. You guys should be supporting HB-506. ***** WARNING *****: There is another Idaho bill...
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    Idaho title change!!!!!

    I must also express concern over this argument. FMVSS-Compliant means it met FMVSS requirements when it was manufactured. FMVSS-Exempted means it was not required to meet FMVSS when it was manufactured. Your argument seems to be that the vehicle is FMVSS-Compliant because it met all the...
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    Idaho title change!!!!!

    Yup, it's House Bill 506: https://legislature.idaho.gov/wp-content/uploads/sessioninfo/2018/legislation/H0506.pdf Follow the progress here: https://legislature.idaho.gov/sessioninfo/2018/legislation/H0506/ :goodjob: All you guys (and gals) in Idaho, PHONE your representatives and urge them...
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    Idaho title change!!!!!

    Eastern Empire, You never know. Here in Wisconsin, Humvees are specifically listed as being eligible for registration (and lifetime registration at that!), which wasn't always the case. This allows me be guardedly optimistic. You are correct about recently issued SF-97 forms having been...
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    Idaho title change!!!!!

    Paragraph 4: "Vehicles of this type that are titled in another state may also be titled and registered in Idaho." I'd interpret that to mean that a vehicle coming into Idaho with a valid out-of-state title would be able to be titled and registered in idaho.
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    Idaho title change!!!!!

    A title only shows ownership, and it can be branded with restrictions. A while ago, I called GP and asked about the titles they offered, in regard to a certain smallish U.S. vehicle (which shall remain unnamed). I was told that titles could be obtained for some vehicles which were only sold...
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    Idaho title change!!!!!

    Yeah, that was my read on it too. A couple comments on this: In the case of a newly imported former military vehicle, the first DOT office to issue a US state title should request the importation documents that show that the vehicle was legally imported. (Once the initial U.S. state title...
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    Idaho title change!!!!!

    I'll toss out a few facts that are applicable. The "25-year FMVSS exemption" DOES pertain to all vehicles, not just gray-market (imported) vehicles. It is codified in Title 49 Transportation Subtitle VI Part A Chapter 301 Section 30112 [Title 49 30112] and reads: "(b) Nonapplication. - This...
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    Idaho title change!!!!!

    Maybe older than 1967? The Certification Label requirement first took effect in 1969, so if he's concerned about vehicles that don't have the FMVSS-compliance certification labels then he's mistaken on the dates. FYI: FMVSS came about as a result of the National Traffic and Highway Safety Act...
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