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I gotta agree with the Hobbit here. Rip raises lots of good points, many undoubtedly applicable in a court of law. But any good attorney doesn't play all his cards right off. Plus, S.S. is a poor forum to debate social politics on - this sub-forum is "Politics related to the MV Hobby", not...

I hope you raise enough for your purpose. But I've got to admit I'm not holding my breath. Speaking personally, I've been dealing with this (and other) issues here in Wisconsin since... ...Sept. 26, 2007. So far, I've been "paid" one Quarter-Pounder and a Coke at McDonalds. Ten years later...

So true... A few comments: DOT's absolutely monitor what goes is said on vehicle-related forums. Putting Tabatha's name out there was unfortunate. Her disappearance was predictable. Forums are our hope, pm's are our salvation. Anarchy is no answer. Laws are what makes this country tick...

No, it TOTALLY matters. Some Marine Humvees WERE originally surplussed with clear unrestricted SF-97's. But the fact that many others were later sold as ORUO (Off Road Use Only) does not make them all ORUO. That's why it's imperative that a clear unrestricted title be accepted as eligible for...

Did you refer her to the Wisconsin Appeal Court decision? That has already been decided once.

FWIW: It's not a NHTSA label, it's a FMVSS Certification Label. FMVSS existed prior to the creation of NHTSA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Highway_Traffic_Safety_Administration NHTSA is an agency. FMVSS are the equipment requirements.

That's it. Thanks for the link.

Valence, I'm like that old Skynyrd song: I know a little. But I don't know how to do what you're suggesting. I'd LOVE to have some place to make all this stuff accessible to others here. One of these days, I just ain't gonna be around... :roll: I believe MVPA just put a lot of it online...

The MIL-STD-1180-B describes the vehicles included as tired (not tracked) up to and including 5-ton variants, so it applies to a deuce. It gives the equivalent FMVSS for each MIL-STD. http://everyspec.com/MIL-STD/MIL-STD-1100-1299/MIL-STD-1180B_22183/ The court case acknowledged the...