Bearitbilt
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Hey, I'm new, so take it easy on me. The only reason I'm posting is hopefully to help someone else out, I'm not really in need of info right now. I am a shop teacher in Lincoln, CA.
I know this has been covered in some ways, but my conversion is a little different. I am actually doing the opposite of what most Cummins conversions are. I am actually doing a SPICER conversion to my Cummins truck. This is where it gets interesting. I believe I have found a less expensive way to couple the b series to the spicer.
I am currently working with a 92 Dodge Cummins, and using a Getrag 360 factory bell. I am using a factory dodge engine plate, flywheel, and starter that came with the engine. I believe an NV4500 set up could be used in a very similar fashion. Most dodge Cummins engines already come with these on them. This is where the swap becomes more cost effective. Flywheels for dodges run $300 new, whereas SAE 2 pieces can run $750-$1000. There are also starters to source and align. This method allows everything, including the factory dodge clutch options to be used (with the exception of a required 1.5" hub in the friction disc).
Currently, I have the bell drilled and attached to the spicer. This was as simple as machining down the front bearing retainer on the 3053a to the same size as the dodge bell, slipping it over and redrilling the bell. I reinforced the area around the holes on the back of the bell with weld, and machined them flat on the inside for the bolt heads to sit flush. Tomorrow I will modify the input for length, install new input bearing and build a release fork (mostly because I lost mine). According to my measurements, I will need to trim two areas from the input, but will post the final measurements at the end of the machining process.
A few comments before I head out for the night.
1. I know the SAE 3 parts will allow more trans options, but the reason I am posting here is you guys are less likely to be changing your trans than your engine.
2. I'm pretty sure an aluminum bell WON'T suspend your transmission without cracking, so a rear crossmember or support may be needed. In my case, that is a typical auto setup, and I will design a crossmember.
3. I wish something like this was written when I started this project, so I could have finished my project more quickly.
In case someone nearby is interested, I also have the factory 3053a adapter ring (SAE3 to multi), bell, and winch (forward) PTO. If you have a home for them, Email me, we can work something out.
Bearitbilt@hotmail.com
I know this has been covered in some ways, but my conversion is a little different. I am actually doing the opposite of what most Cummins conversions are. I am actually doing a SPICER conversion to my Cummins truck. This is where it gets interesting. I believe I have found a less expensive way to couple the b series to the spicer.
I am currently working with a 92 Dodge Cummins, and using a Getrag 360 factory bell. I am using a factory dodge engine plate, flywheel, and starter that came with the engine. I believe an NV4500 set up could be used in a very similar fashion. Most dodge Cummins engines already come with these on them. This is where the swap becomes more cost effective. Flywheels for dodges run $300 new, whereas SAE 2 pieces can run $750-$1000. There are also starters to source and align. This method allows everything, including the factory dodge clutch options to be used (with the exception of a required 1.5" hub in the friction disc).
Currently, I have the bell drilled and attached to the spicer. This was as simple as machining down the front bearing retainer on the 3053a to the same size as the dodge bell, slipping it over and redrilling the bell. I reinforced the area around the holes on the back of the bell with weld, and machined them flat on the inside for the bolt heads to sit flush. Tomorrow I will modify the input for length, install new input bearing and build a release fork (mostly because I lost mine). According to my measurements, I will need to trim two areas from the input, but will post the final measurements at the end of the machining process.
A few comments before I head out for the night.
1. I know the SAE 3 parts will allow more trans options, but the reason I am posting here is you guys are less likely to be changing your trans than your engine.
2. I'm pretty sure an aluminum bell WON'T suspend your transmission without cracking, so a rear crossmember or support may be needed. In my case, that is a typical auto setup, and I will design a crossmember.
3. I wish something like this was written when I started this project, so I could have finished my project more quickly.
In case someone nearby is interested, I also have the factory 3053a adapter ring (SAE3 to multi), bell, and winch (forward) PTO. If you have a home for them, Email me, we can work something out.
Bearitbilt@hotmail.com
