ever get a load of gas in your CUCV?

[2deuce]

I have almost gotten gas twice here recently. As I'm typing this I just realized most of the country pumps your own but here in Oregon that is against the law. An attendant must do the pumping. Sometimes I think they are brain dead from the fumes all day
What is involved if this does happen? I know that it would need to be pumped out of the tank but would you disconnect the glow plugs and let it crank until diesel gets injected? My best friend had this happen twice with his duramax. I asked the station where I usually get fuel and the guy said yeah I did one yesterday.
If your passing through Oregon keep an eye on what nozzle they put in your tank!

Greg

 

[Dabba]

I always watch when im not pumping, which is never.

 

[watkinssr]

I have almost gotten gas twice here recently. As I'm typing this I just realized most of the country pumps your own but here in Oregon that is against the law. An attendant must do the pumping. Sometimes I think they are brain dead from the fumes all day
What is involved if this does happen? I know that it would need to be pumped out of the tank but would you disconnect the glow plugs and let it crank until diesel gets injected? My best friend had this happen twice with his duramax. I asked the station where I usually get fuel and the guy said yeah I did one yesterday.
If your passing through Oregon keep an eye on what nozzle they put in your tank!

Greg

well, on a cucv, there is a drain pipe exiting over the frame rail near the filler...you can see it through the wheel well. It has a rubber cap over it, and a hose clamp holding it on.

Pull the cap off, then take an air compressor and preasurize the tank (you can do it from the return line off of the IP). Only need about 5 pounds or so of preasure. The tank will empty through this pipe as long as you put air to it.

You can use the same method to bleed the fuel filter.

 

[ultim8gamr]

I have relatives that live in Oregon who have told horror stories of a customer with a brand new motor home that the station attendant filled with the wrong fuel and it damaged the engine.

Most of the stations should have a green tag that they put around the fill hole of the truck to indicate that diesel is to be used. The attendants see that every time they unscrew the cap and know that it needs diesel. Next time you fill up ask for one of these to be put on your truck. or you can paint the inside of the fuel door a green and stencil DIESEL ONLY and hopefully that will help some.

We had an employee at my company fill a diesel f250 with gas. Luckily they were able to switch it to the second tank that still had diesel before it did any major damage. They had to drain and flush the first tank.

 

[2deuce]

My M1009 is labeled diesel only, but the filler as you know is at the right rear, and if you stay in your truck, is much harder to see than the m1008, which is next to the drivers door. I told her diesel, handed her my card and after running my card, pulls out the gas nozzle. Luckily I got out and saw what was about to happen.
My daughter pumped gas for a while and a girl she worked with got fired for filling 2 diesel trucks with gas the same day. I'm really aware after my 2 close calls but what kind of damage if any could I expect for driving away and stalling on gas with a 6.2L. Would it cause damage if the glow plugs came on with gas in there?

 

[watkinssr]

I have a friend in the movie biz who is kind of an airhead. He was given a rental diesel box van to pick up materials for a set, and he forgot it was diesel and topped off the tank with gasoline. He said it ran like ****, but he drove it for a day or two before he realized what he did.

 

[Josh]

I had a service station refuse to pump gas into my deuce once. I explained to them it wouldn't hurt the engine and they sayed if they pumped gas into a diesel they where liable if something happen, so I drove across the street and they put some in for me. The second station did ask twice to make sure I wanted gas in the truck and not diesel.

 

[Recovry4x4]

Wow, interesting stuff. Are there any other states that make it a crime to pump your own fuel? Looks like I won't be driving in Oregon.

 

[maddawg308]

I always pump my own fuel. Except in New Jersey, where it is illegal to pump your own. One time, in 1996, I did almost have a tank full of diesel put in my Dakota gas tank, due to the stupid inbred stoner that was working at the station that day that didn't pay attention to the gas nozzle he was grabbing. That was the last time I remember gassing up in NJ.

 

[yetti96]

Weird law for sure. There is only a handful of states that require you to use an attendant, but why?

 

[TIGERFANS2]

Weird law for sure. There is only a handful of states that require you to use an attendant, but why?

Jobs program for the brain dead?

Probably because with a trained expert in tank filling there's less chance of major environment damage due to a major spillage of several drops of fuel.

 

[dstang97]

You should have your own fuel station at your house like me.

 

[zout]

Seen it happen to many trucks - especially smaller ones like Isuzu box trucks.

Watched a guy come into a truck stop down in Wichita Falls Tx truckstop pull up to the fuel islands - slam the nozzles in both tanks and hurry up to go inside to flirt with the georgeous fuel island gal.

When the tank signals beeped inside with him still drooling over her - she told him "how to you want to pay for that gasoline you just stuck in your diesel tanks because your fuel card does not allow gasoline purchases".

300 gallons worth.

Never did stick around as it was not worth my time to watch his delima unfold.

 

[Recovry4x4]

Seen it happen to many trucks - especially smaller ones like Isuzu box trucks.

Watched a guy come into a truck stop down in Wichita Falls Tx truckstop pull up to the fuel islands - slam the nozzles in both tanks and hurry up to go inside to flirt with the georgeous fuel island gal.

When the tank signals beeped inside with him still drooling over her - she told him "how to you want to pay for that gasoline you just stuck in your diesel tanks because your fuel card does not allow gasoline purchases".

300 gallons worth.

Never did stick around as it was not worth my time to watch his delima unfold.

That's priceless. Should be on the back of a tee shirt.

 

[niferous]

well, on a cucv, there is a drain pipe exiting over the frame rail near the filler...you can see it through the wheel well. It has a rubber cap over it, and a hose clamp holding it on.

Pull the cap off, then take an air compressor and preasurize the tank (you can do it from the return line off of the IP). Only need about 5 pounds or so of preasure. The tank will empty through this pipe as long as you put air to it.

You can use the same method to bleed the fuel filter.

I wish I had known that when I drained my tank!

 

[mahdey]

my issue is i am so used to grabbing the diesel pump i couldnt figure out why i couldnt get the nozle into my dads Escalades filler neck...took a minute until i realized why.

 

[OL AG '89]

Illegal to pump your own????
I have two more states I won't be visiting in the near future.....
Are these "pumpers" or "fuel handlers" licensed and regulated by the gov'ment?

Shakespeare was RIGHT!!

 

[KyCUCVs]

Did it myself once.

Was in northern Alabama once in my M1008. Not paying attention after too many hours on the road and got way low on fuel. Started looking for a gas station and the first three I came to were out of diesel. Some kind of shortage in the area. Spotted a Kwiki-Mart type store with fuel pumps. Their big sign said "Diesel" on it. Pulled up to the only green pump and started pumping. After a few gallons, I realized that I was smelling gasoline instead of diesel. The green pump was high octane. The diesel pump (it was yellow) was around the side of the building with an out of diesel sign on it.

I started the truck and pulled into the parking area and shut it off. Called a wrecker service and explained my problem. The driver laoded my truck up and hauled me to a truck stop that had diesel. I topped the tank off, put a bucket under the truck, removed the pink wire off of the IP and cranked it to try to get any undiluted gas out of the system. Changed the fuel filter and after several attempts, it started. Drove back to Kentucky without further incident or malfunction.

First think I did once home was check SteelSoldiers.com for similar incidents. I didn't find anyone that made the same stupid mistake I did, but found a couple post where people had heard or read that some diesel mechanics often put a gallon of gas in a diesel vehicle to clean the injectors. Never was able to verify this and would never try this myself, but have seen no ill effects. After preaching attention to detail all the years, it comes back to bite me in the rear. When you learn the hard way, you remember.

 

[2deuce]

If its hot and you don't want to get out of your ac luxury, or if you don't like winter weather you can lower your window 1/2 inch so you don't feel any arctic air to slide your card through or when you sniff your finger you don't smell anything like gas or diesel from pumping your own.
The argument for pumping your own used to be that it would be cheaper, but the states around Oregon all charge more, could be a tax difference. The petro industry hates the requirement and has spent lots of money trying to change it. I think the state recently made it a law that they can't top off a gasoline tank, when pump stops that's all you get due to expansion.
It doesn't sound like there is any real damage, just the problem of removal. Still thinking it might be a good idea to crank the starter long enough to get diesel to the injectors before the glow plugs get activated. Maybe it doesn't matter and it will start when diesel fills the system. I like the idea of pressurizing the tank for removal, thats good to know. Thanks

 

[coolnick73]

my issue is i am so used to grabbing the diesel pump i couldnt figure out why i couldnt get the nozle into my dads Escalades filler neck...took a minute until i realized why.

Back when I was in the guards we had stopped at a truck stop to refuel. I noticed my buddy (a supply guy) at the same pumps as the trucks trying to get the nozzle into the tank of a gasser Econoline van. I told him it took gas and he said, "I thought all military vehicles took diesel."