Governor Inspection

[Wildchild467]

I have had an idle issue with my deuce ever since i got it. i have researched posts a lot trying to figure out what is going on. another member on here had the similiar issue i have with mine and he said it was his throttle stop plate. This is the little pendilium looking thing that swings with the throttle shaft was loose. so he took it off, re centered it and tightened it back up. my problem is the idle speed is fine, right at 800rpm when it is on flat ground or pointing down hill. when it is pointing up hill though, it idles much lower, maybe 650-700 rpm. Is there a process that i can visually look at the governor inside to inspect for any broken springs or something that may be causing my problem?

 

[Floridianson]

Don't know how much of the Govener you will see but it will run with the FDC removed.

 

[Wildchild467]

just 4 bolts and i can remove the FDC fairly easy, correct? mine is bypassed. so no hoses to disconnect. i should be able to see a lot in there with that off huh? There is also the back cover also, right? that one has 2 bolts holding that on.

 

[Floridianson]

Bypassed yes good rear cover no I believe springy thingy

 

[Wildchild467]

so i wont see anything on the governor if i take off the FDC and look inside? does anybody have pictures or any storys of governor problems they had and how they fixed it?

 

[Wildchild467]

I read the LDS Troubleshooting manual, and i see the field way of adjusting the fuel settings by judging how much boost the turbo makes. If i take off the FDC from the IP, will i be able to see the govenor weights and springs inside there or no? My goal is to look for broken govenor springs or anything out of the ordinary to solve the problem in my first post of this thread.

 

[Floridianson]

I would think you will see this much. If it's running that area will be flooded with oil but yes not running you can look, shake it and play with it. Just don't tell anyone. Then fire up and watch the stuff move. You just wont see forward advance stuff from there.

 

[Wildchild467]

I pulled off the FDC last night and looked in there and the torque arm i think its called really flops around in there. i fired it up with the FDC removed and it fired up great! just hit the button and fired right off. what i dont understand is the part that connects the torque arm to the operating shaft. its like a "U" shaped thing that moves the bottom of the torque arm to adjust throttle speed. it does not move that freely.... i wish i had another good pump to compare it to.

 

[Wildchild467]

Here is the picture looking through where my govenor shaft bolts on. The little arm that goes at the bottom of the torque arm is what i have a qestion on. how freely should that piviot on the torque arm? when i tried to move it thinking it would just swing freely, it did not want to budge much. should this move easier? also when the throttle operating shaft is installed on the IP, and i move to top of the torque arm where the FDC would bolt on, it seems real loose on the bottom like at the bottom of the torque rod. everything appears to be ok, but im trying to track down why my idle speed pointing down hill is normal and when it is pointing up hill it idles slower. i am looking at the govenor side because it is just easier to inspect than the advance unit side. Also, the throttle stop plate seems to be aligned just fine on the throttle shaft and is tight. so my questions are:

1. how freely should the "U" shaped piece move on the torque arm? (this is the piece that connects the throttle operating shaft to the torque arm)
2. what kind of points of wear should i look for that might be possible cause for the wierd idle speed situations
3. Could the coil spring on the throttle shaft be worn out or something not allowing me to apply proper spring pressure on the govenor to obtain a real "full throttle"?
4. Could the connection of the throttle operating shaft and where it mates on the torque arm be worn some and causing a fluctuation?

thanks!

 

[Wildchild467]

here is another picture of the torque arm. i put arrows on the "U" shaped piece which is attached to the torque arm. my understanding is that the pivot point on the arm (bottom arrow) should turn freely. mine seems like it is bound up some and does not like to swing like i think it should.... could this be causing my power issues? nothing should be rusted, as i have driven it about 6000 miles since.... how freely should this move?

 

[Wildchild467]

another thing, as you see in the picture, that "u" shaped piece is leavning toward the right.... when i try to swing it to the left just by hand, it does not seem to want to move hardly any.... i wonder if when i step on the throttle it just dosnt swing that much and therefore not deliver as much fuel as it should? what would cause this binding up and is it hard to pull that torque arm out of the pump and inspect that movement in the torque arm?