New Starter Confusion

[ilovemyblazer]

Ok, first of I HAVE searched this forum and read up on this but I'm still confused.

My starter on my M1008 went out while a diesel mech. was installing the new I.P. (he insists that he did not miss-treat the starter) I took it to a local shop to rebuild it because I know thats the best thing to do. It is not repairable (see pic).

So I went ahead and ordered one off of eBay from DB Electrical. It is a gear reduction starter. Question is: Is it a direct bolt in?? Do I need some bracket or something?

 

[Warthog]

Your old starter was a direct drive. Your new starter is a gear reduction.

You will need a new starter support bracket. Available at your dealer. Other than that it is a direct bolt in. Be aware that some starters require shimming. You new starter should have instructions. If not they are in the TM.

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/cucv/15551-starter-bracket-bolt-size.html

The part number is listed in post #14 along with some pictures.

Also order and install some new starter bolts. They are really a one time use item.
GM 15544950 - Starter Bolt
GM 14060613 - Starter Bracket Bolt - M8 x 1.25 x 20 (hardware store)
GM 14028931 - Starter Bracket - old style Direct Drive starter
GM 23502557 - Starter Bracket - new style Gear Reduction starter

Don't throw your old starter away as some people need some small parts from the unit.

 

[Evil Dr. Porkchop]

You will need the different support bracket for the front of the starter, other than that it should be the same.

 

[73m819]

Can anybody tell me HOW a starter can get busted up that way

 

[ilovemyblazer]

Can anybody tell me HOW a starter can get busted up that way

I have know clue, nor did the guy who was going to rebuild it.. He said he's never seen something like that. It ticks me off because the starter worked great when I gave the truck to the mech. to install the I.P.

 

[Keith_J]

I've seen starter damage like that. Commutator pads come loose, they are embedded in epoxy/phenolic which is brittle. All it takes is a single pad getting loose, then it either rips the brushes or it flies off.

Pulled a starter off a Ford that looked like that. Buttoned it back up and got a new one. They took the core

 

[Bighurt]

Can anybody tell me HOW a starter can get busted up that way

Give GL a shot at handling it...

 

[M1008driver]

You better take a look at your flexplate too. You already know what happened. He was trying to get it going and your starter wore out. If you take the time to get the parts mentioned above and make sure your flexplate is OK or change it if worn, you should not have any trouble for a long time.

 

[wayne pick]

Did you do the doghead mod? Don't see it in any of your posts. The starter may have run away after the mechanics 50th try at starting it and failed to tell you that part of his story. After you just about empty your wallet on the new starter, do the doghead mod BEFORE you install your new starter. I doubt this happend out of pure coincidence, and don't let anyone touch your truck if they don't know what they are doing. You could have spent that money on other upgrades to the truck. Good luck.