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Still Smoking

simp5782

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So my M-61 Ive been trying to do some work on it. i replaced 4 of the injectors and tried WMO and it just smoked like a big and ran pretty gutless. Today I pulled the fuel line off and ran it right to a big jug of the power service 911 diesel supplement. Fired right off within 2 or 3 spins and wasnt even warmed up previously. I switched it over to a big jug of the cetane boost from power service and it ran on about 1/4 a bottle and then wouldnt even idle and shut down. it would run on it but i had to give it fuel. then i switched it over to a gallon of pure ATF and it idiled on its own again and smoked pretty good. then ran it to a straight 5 gallon can of # 2 diesel. It ran good with little smoke but sucked the 5 gallons down in less than 2 mins of idiling. I cleaned the tank already before and I drained it and added 10 gallons of clean diesel and 2.5gallons of 91 octane gas. Went for a drive. it smokes pretty bad on takeoff. blueish/black and it sounds like a really harsh ping when i have the throttle depressed more than 10% from about 1000 to 1900rpms it pings/knocks till i et over that with full throttle and itll go away. then when i stop itll do it again till i get up high in RPMS. I have cleaned all the lines and injectors out repeatedly. I also notice a hint of diesel in the oil as well. Could the FDC be causing the fuel restriction as well as the leaking into the oil? Or am I better off scrapping the motor and getting a replacement? Its a 62' M-61 has the LDS-465 with no rebuild date on it. The ODO is reading 13k on it. I am going to be relocating to Memphis from Montana within the next few months and I dont really want my F250 IDI diesel towing it the whole way.
 

73m819

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try JUST running diesal , nothing but diesal, NO GAS, after all that stuff you ran though.
 

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It ran good with little smoke but sucked the 5 gallons down in less than 2 mins of idling.
Where was your fuel return line during this test?
 

simp5782

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I had it into a 5gallon bucket. It pissed maybe a 20oz coke bottle full into the bucket during the 2 min idle. I will get some updated videos of it posted tonight or tomorrow.
 

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Sounds like you have a fuel leak allowing fuel into your crankcase. The usual places are, FDC(bypass it), Hydraulic head(replace the 3 o-rings), or Boost pump(replace seal).

Each one of those is easy to visually test. There should be plenty of threads that cover this, or someone can talk you through each one.
 

simp5782

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Got to working on it today. believe I have a dead cylinder. #3 from the front, crack the line while running, no change in rpms/idle. Is a new injector, swapped with a known good one no change. Pulled the valve cover and the valves appear to be tight. I did notice alot of excessive smoke coming from the rdt at idle I mean enough that itll gag u when going down the road.
 
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