Can anyone help me identify if my new deuce is a m35a1 or m35a2? The ID plate says its a 1962 Studebaker m35a1 but it has the LDT465 along with other up grades. The Id plate lists the VIN as M-55381 but the Number of the frame rail are 2793L- A43T. I have attached some photos to assist it the identification.
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What do I have? M35a1 or M35a2
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Maybe an m35 repowered to an LDT? Is the passenger rear engine mount bolted on?
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I'm going to say it is a A1 with the early dash and swinging mud flaps.
Newer tail lights though.
Definitely been repowered as my A1 is.
Look for rebuild tags on the Trans.,T-case, and diff's.
If there, the dates will probably match or be close to the engine date.
Tom
Newer tail lights though.
Definitely been repowered as my A1 is.
Look for rebuild tags on the Trans.,T-case, and diff's.
If there, the dates will probably match or be close to the engine date.
Tom
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Yea A1 Was upgraded from a gasser in the military. Nice truck.
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Can you post a picture of the frame stamped VIN?
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These things were in the military long after they stopped making a specific model and it's certainly possible it's been modified by them before it left.
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There are also the captured nuts on the firewall for the generator regulator box mount. That only dates it to before 1967 though. I thought the hinged mud flaps ended in 1958? A bed swap is easy too.
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Definitely an interesting mixture of parts. If it weren't for the data plate, I'd say it started out as a gasser M35, but maybe they were still putting gasser parts into A1s. Then it was upgraded to an A2.
Your gauge plate and transmission shifter are the gasser parts I recognize. The hole in the floor where the foot starter was could've been either M35 or M35A1.
Your gauge plate and transmission shifter are the gasser parts I recognize. The hole in the floor where the foot starter was could've been either M35 or M35A1.
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The SN starting with an M is idicative of a Stude for sure. The stamped frame number is like none I've ever seen. Please post a pic of it and show us where you found it. The Stude stamping is usually near the front of the left frame rail, not near the shock mount like many others.
The frame number I posted came from the left side of the frame near the shock mount. I'll check for another stamped number closer to the front of the frame. If I locate anything I'll post some pics.
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I don't think that's the VIN. Can you look more forward for lighter stamped numbers?
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A1 nerd here. stb64 is another, and David Doyle is the history guru MV vehicle author. Pretty sure it's a '62 Stude A1 updated to A2, maybe after the military. Serial M-55 is close to mine, which is M-59. A1s were '61-'64. Probably not an updated M35 gasser. Pic of dash Data Plate would be nice, but if it says Stude, it should be a Stude. Usually that info got lost when the military replated them updating them to A2.
The 2794L A43T is the Left frame rail part number, not serial. There will be a similar number on the Right rail.
From memory - A1 would have originally had a foot starter button, LDS427 engine, tach below dash, the larger wiper knob it has, U-bolt bed attachment instead of bolts through angle clips, hinged mudflaps, rear exhaust cutouts in fuel tank supports, and exhaust hanger remnants... There is a new and old style front engine crossmember, either vertically oriented rectangle tube (old), or hortizontally oriented channel (new/A2, weaker). If it was originally gas, one of the rear engine mounts would have bolts instead of factory rivets. Also, an original multifuel truck will have a reinforcing plate on the firewall for the aircleaner.
The 2794L A43T is the Left frame rail part number, not serial. There will be a similar number on the Right rail.
From memory - A1 would have originally had a foot starter button, LDS427 engine, tach below dash, the larger wiper knob it has, U-bolt bed attachment instead of bolts through angle clips, hinged mudflaps, rear exhaust cutouts in fuel tank supports, and exhaust hanger remnants... There is a new and old style front engine crossmember, either vertically oriented rectangle tube (old), or hortizontally oriented channel (new/A2, weaker). If it was originally gas, one of the rear engine mounts would have bolts instead of factory rivets. Also, an original multifuel truck will have a reinforcing plate on the firewall for the aircleaner.
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Here is my A1 go-around form a couple years ago. Lots of A1 info.
https://www.steelsoldiers.com/showt...xed-parts-M35-Gasser-VIN-ID-please&highlight=
https://www.steelsoldiers.com/showt...xed-parts-M35-Gasser-VIN-ID-please&highlight=