what is correct color?

[ricky bobby]

i just bought a 1970 american general m35a2. it has been camo colored and its flaking off. the original color under it is shinny and dark green.my question is what color is this and where to buy.

 

[M35A2-AZ]

If it is a Army M35A2 is should have 24087 under the camo. You can get paint from Rapco paint in spray cans or Gal. cans.
http://www.rapcoparts.com/padenew.html

 

[ricky bobby]

thank you for answering. 24087 does look correct for color. is it correct for 1970

 

[M35A2-AZ]

Yes and this is what it will look like.

 

[clinto]

If it is a Army M35A2 is should have 24087 under the camo. You can get paint from Rapco paint in spray cans or Gal. cans.
http://www.rapcoparts.com/padenew.html

You can also buy 24087 from Midwest Military in an excellent catalyzed urethane mix. The Gillespie is cheap and easy to shoot, but it's a single part alkyd enamel. IMHO it's a cheap, low quality paint (and before anyone thinks I am slamming their vehicles, 2 of my personal vehicles are painted with it).

I just shot my first stuff with the TM9/Midwest stuff and it's the awesome sauce.




The color is dead on, I have a couple NOS pieces that are 24087 and are still in their boxes and this color is a great match. It lays on really, really thin. If you're used to shooting Gillespie (which is really thick), you need to practice a little, because it would be easy to get runs with this stuff. But I was really impressed with it and with it having a catalyst/hardener, it should be a stronger, longer lasting paint.

The company that made this stuff was TM9 and Midwest Military bought their paint operation, so this line of paint is now purchased from MM: http://store.midwestmilitary.com/category-s/1965.htm

 

[M35A2-AZ]

Looks good!! What primer did you use?

 

[clinto]

Looks good!! What primer did you use?

I have shot a fair amount of stuff in the last couple years and about 20% of it has been PPG DP40, which is kind of an industry standard but it's ferociously expensive.

The other 80% (including this axle) has been a local company, Southern Polyurethanes; they have a line of epoxy primers. I love this stuff. It has great coverage, a gallon goes a long way. It sprays great-very few runs, lays down flat, is extremely forgiving on temperature and humidity and has great adhesion, both in terms of adhering to the surface and the paint adhering to it. And it's cheap. Gallon of primer is $93, gallon of activator is $93, 1:1 mix, so it's $93 a sprayable gallon.

http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/#!products/c19pa

My partner stripped these 2 M416s to bare metal in 2007 to use for his environmental compliance company. They used Land Rover Discoverys for land surveying, stormwater monitoring, etc. They needed small trailers for tools the Rovers couldn't carry. Bought these, had 'em sandblasted to bare metal and we SP spoxy primed them so they could be Line-X'd. Then the economy cratered and one of the companies basically stopped existing and the trailers went dormant. So they've sat outside for almost 10 years, used on and off. And there's no corrosion on them. Primer isn't designed to be a topcoat, so I think this is a pretty good torture test of this material.



10 years later (look at the wheel and the tongue):




I did these wheels for a '65 Plymouth for a buddy with the SP stuff:



This USAF '69 W200 Power Wagon (I can't remember why Dave had bought a gallon of the white epoxy primer for this project):



My Deuce frame:



I really like this line of primer. My Dad's '68 Chevelle is either going to get this stuff or the DP40. Depends if we farm it out or if I end up painting it (all the quotes we've gotten for paint are $10K+ so I may end up doing it).

 

[M35A2-AZ]

Thanks, Looks great may have to try it on my next project.

 

[dmetalmiki]

Yes and this is what it will look like.

When we change our colours next year, We are going to go with this scheme. Looks very impressive.

 

[Johno176]

Clinto, what is the color code of the paint you used on your deuce? Is it the 383 green? It looks like it has a slight sheen, like a semi-gloss.

 

[clinto]

Clinto, what is the color code of the paint you used on your deuce? Is it the 383 green? It looks like it has a slight sheen, like a semi-gloss.

It's 383, the modern CARC replacement. It looks like it has a sheen because the Gillespie looks that way for awhile (a few months) until it fully flattens out.

Once it's been on for a bit, it is a surprisingly good match. It's a little smoother to the touch, but visually it's a very good match. I had a really good picture somewhere showing how good the match was but can't find it.

Here it is after it cured for a while. The transfer case is NOS and has real CARC on it.

 

[Tinwoodsman]

Nice painting booth Clinto. Looks like it has great ventilation.

 

[clinto]

Nice painting booth Clinto. Looks like it has great ventilation.

Good ventilation, lighting is very good (better in the summer), filtration is so-so.

I have access to a friend's booth now, so I can shoot in the winter and for show quality stuff, I can control environmental issues, like dust and bugs. If I ever had the money to put up a big shop, I'd try and buy a used paint booth.