Rolling tailboard and rear winch

[gimpyrobb]

What Ron said, run cable under the bed. Reaving would be simplified by virtue of the dump bed. Gimpy, I know what you are saying, I'm planning a tray for that space on my truck.

Know anyone that does garage doors for a living? I think the guide/rollers would be perfect for a roll-out tray.

 

[Recovry4x4]

Actually I'm going back to my roots on this one. I'm planning on using skate wheels.

 

[REO 54]

I purchased a 24V Warn 3ton winch to mount in the back of my bed to pull up a cab over camper into my bed.
I plan on mounting the winch between the posts of the bed with a piece of large C channel for backing.It would be
sandwiched between the bed and the winch.I have a NATO single pin to plug in the winch.

I have some scrap UHMW [ski base material] to install on the bottom of the camper to reduce friction,skids basically.
I plan to use ramps and place the camper on elevated surface to reduce the angle to winch the camper onto the bed.

Yeah,I'll post some pics when I get all up and running.I'm at the stage of getting my components together.
Maybe a wacky idea,but I'm going for it.

Good thread...

 

[quickfarms]

If you need to slide metal on metal just hose the area down and the water will reduce the friction.

This is a link to a photo set of a man 7 ton ribon bridge transporter. This shows the winch mounted to the frame near the pivot point and the shieves routing the cable. Your setup would substitute the bed for the frame that they use.

http://www.primeportal.net/ce/michael_wulbrandt/man_7t_rbt/index.php?Page=1


the rollout trays use cam follower bearings mounted to a angle iron moving frame running in a chanel frame attached to the bed or stationary surface. you will need a minimum of four bearings and you will no get full extension.

 

[Darwin T]

one of my deuces has a receiver hitch welded in the front of the bed that i assume was for a removable winch to haul stuff up into the bed. i will try to get a picture of it this weekend.

 

[73m819]

the problem with a winch mounted in front of the bed, is that a lot of space is lost due to the winch, a under frame cable run with a front bed sheave solves this problem.

 

[m16ty]

Ron, You and Kenny could be right. I'm still thinking about a design. These post help. Thanks.

 

[Recovry4x4]

the problem with a winch mounted in front of the bed, is that a lot of space is lost due to the winch, a under frame cable run with a front bed sheave solves this problem.

Couple of other considerations. If you were to go with the forward mount you would either need to mount the winch in the bed which would require quite a bit of hydraulic hose because of the dump or you frame mount it under the bed. This would require you leaving out quite a bit of cable for dumping ops. Rear mount means the winch can stay put, only the single length of hose and if the situation required it, you could unreave the cable from the bed and have a rear extrication winch. Fashioning up a rear fairlead would be a piece of cake. I see lots of WIN mounting it rearward and reaving the cable under the bed to a sheave in the front.

 

[rolling18]

Couple of other considerations. If you were to go with the forward mount you would either need to mount the winch in the bed which would require quite a bit of hydraulic hose because of the dump or you frame mount it under the bed. This would require you leaving out quite a bit of cable for dumping ops. Rear mount means the winch can stay put, only the single length of hose and if the situation required it, you could unreave the cable from the bed and have a rear extrication winch. Fashioning up a rear fairlead would be a piece of cake. I see lots of WIN mounting it rearward and reaving the cable under the bed to a sheave in the front.

you guys have some great ideas!! would you and other mind making a "rough draft" sketch of your various Ideas???

I'm NEEDING to to something similar do to recent back problems.. only im going to be using an electric wench. (mainly for full 55 gal drums)
so far im liking the under bed mounting, and the trailer hitch mounting in the front of the bed so I could install the removable multi mount.
Ohh whats a "rolling tailboard"?

 

[rchalmers3]

you guys have some great ideas!! would you and other mind making a "rough draft" sketch of your various Ideas?

I think this is what Kenny is envisioning.

The two issues I see are:

The cable length from winch to bed sheave changes as the bed is raised and lowered unless the winch is centered on the bed hinge. That may make loading awkward, maybe not.

AFAIK the rear of the bed does not get to ground level, so how do you solve the initial approach to get the load onto the roller ?

I am with Ty, a multipurpose truck that has Swiss army knife abilities is a dream. I will follow carefully any thread that takes this idea forward.

EDIT: For pulling loads onto the bed, it is possible to utilize a removable section of cable dedicated for the pull. That way the winch can be more easily utilized for rear winching operations.

Rick

 

[rolling18]

I think this is what Kenny is envisioning.

The two issues I see are:

The cable length from winch to bed sheave changes unless the winch is centered on the bed hinge. That may make loading awkward, maybe not.

AFAIK the rear of the bed does not get to ground level, so how do you solve the initial approach to get the load onto the roller ?

I am with Ty, a multipurpose truck that has Swiss army knife abilities is a dream. I will follow carefully any thread that takes this idea forward.

Rick

ok yea i get that i dont have a dump bed tho but have a super heavy duty set of loading ramps.. and can attach more rope as nrreded..

i wast thinkin of mounting in center of bed up against back wall as a possibility so long ad the weight i was pulling wouldnt bend it hehe

 

[rchalmers3]

If you are loading rolling stock I think you'd be OK. Skidding........ that might do some damage!

Rick

 

[73m819]

I think this is what Kenny is envisioning.

The two issues I see are:

The cable length from winch to bed sheave changes unless the winch is centered on the bed hinge. That may make loading awkward, maybe not.

AFAIK the rear of the bed does not get to ground level, so how do you solve the initial approach to get the load onto the roller ?

I am with Ty, a multipurpose truck that has Swiss army knife abilities is a dream. I will follow carefully any thread that takes this idea forward.

EDIT: For pulling loads onto the bed, it is possible to utilize a removable section of cable dedicated for the pull. That way the winch can be more easily utilized for rear winching operations.

Rick

If you RIG the cable UNDER the front of the load, as you winch in over the rolling tail borad, the cable is low, riding on the rolling tail board, thus carring the load with it, then it just a matter of keep winching till the load is in the truck.

This is a common oilfield everyday practice

 

[m16ty]

If you RIG the cable UNDER the front of the load, as you winch in over the rolling tail borad, the cable is low, riding on the rolling tail board, thus carring the load with it, then it just a matter of keep winching till the load is in the truck.

This is a common oilfield everyday practice

The be doesn't even have to dump if you have a winch and a rolling tailboard. Most oilfield trucks don't dump. The dump angle will help loading and unloading go smoother though.

It would be very hard to load something on wheels with this setup though. It works best with something mounted on skids or at least a flat bottom.

Here's a vid of the setup we are talking about. This is a trailer but the principle is the same.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipSj9CWuO2k[/media]