Thanks again guys for the info. Just to give a little more info, The con rod had already escaped the block when I bought the truck. The ldt engine in the crate is out of my volunteer fire departments tanker. I was the driver on call when it began missing, It ran fine on the way to the fire, sat and idled while fighting the fire(dept rules you never kill the truck on scene), and when we got in the truck to return to station it was missing. We had just rebuilt the turbo and detuned the previously turned up injection pump(aparrantly to late). We pulled the valve covers and inspected the valve train which was functioning properly. Going no further we replaced the engine with the 1d crate motor from the forestry service. I bought the duece( an extra parts truck) as it was complete, troop seats, tarp, sparetire and carrier, etc. It even has good brake petal, and decent tires. The old engine out of the tanker was put in the crate from the 1d engine and I got it with the purchase of the truck. I am not sure of the designation of said core as I have nothing at home at this time to lift the lid off the crate, as you all know it is quite heavy. I grew up in a auto machine shop so rebuilding the engine is enjoyment to me. The only reason I was interested in the lds engine is availability and as mentioned before cheaper at this time, then a gasket set. I also know where the engine came from and know it is a new overhaul. Finding out it is a more powerful engine is just iceing on the cake. I have inspected the lds engine and found the td casting. It also has an old injection pump with it, but the rebuilt one was used on another truck. The alternator is still on the motor but was also swapped to another truck so it is only a core. Yes I will post pictures, but as ,again, afore mentioned I am not good with the computer and do not know how, that is why god gave us wives, and as soon as mine has time to waste on my wastedfull hoby she will help me post said pictures. I will know quickly if the price stays low or if on the last day of the auction it skyrockets, but now I know if the price stays low I can have my truck running quicker then previously planned.