SF 97 Charges unfair

[SCSG-G4]

DUG, Chief, and others,

The links to the GL contract are already here on SS. They are in threads about the contract renewal a couple of years ago. (August 200. Read about it in this thread:
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/conversations/22762-gl-wins-new-contract.html

 

[paulfarber]

Is it fair that new wipers and blades for an M35 can cost $80+ There isn't $8 worth of metal and rubber....

Is it fair that places sell cargo cover kits for $500+?

Is it fair that that winch 'kits' are $1500+ when you can buy a complete running truck for less than that?

Is it fair that swappers will sell you a truck without a title? Then add that $60 SF-97 fee onto the price?

Its funny that some people think that GL is either out to get them, or everything GL does is just to screw them. You buy a truck/trailer according to the RULES you read AND AGREED TO.

Bottom line, you don't NEED an SF-97. But if you want one, its $60. I can't see how they could make it any simpler.

 

[USAFSS-ColdWarrior]

Let's see:
Diesel @ $4.00/gallon vs. SF-97 @ $60.00
Roughly 15 gallons of fuel.... that's less than 1/3 of a tank ! ! !

Come on now - if you can't afford the paperwork, maybe you shouldn't be buying OD Iron !

 

[porkysplace]

In michigan unrestricted plates for a deuce are $500 year , $ 60 for paperwork isn't chit

 

[jarhead1086]

Lively thread. I hear a lot of good points and history, but personally I don't see what the SF-97 really does to help your home state generate a title. The "Paid" invoice printed off your account has all the needed info my state requires but lacks good proof of authenticity. Why couldn't the GL people sign and notarize a fresh copy of the paid invoice to prove you are the owner? You could pay the notary directly right then if you planned on putting a title on it. The notary could double check the VIN to the invoice too since the load out guys I had at Barstow couldn't even get the 4 digit lot number right. I felt like I was missing something driving away with nothing but a ratty, printed invoice with no signatures or official looking receipts. If I got caught speeding up the hill and pulled over I would have had a big story to tell how I got this truck.

 

[clinto]

I don't see what the SF-97 really does to help your home state generate a title.

Can't speak for other States but in Georgia, once it's a certain age, they'll only issue you a title if you already have one. Most of the deuces are old enough that if I went in to the DMV with just the BOS/invoice, all I'd get is registered. With the SF97, I can get a title.

 

[USAFSS-ColdWarrior]

Lively thread. I hear a lot of good points and history, but personally I don't see what the SF-97 really does to help your home state generate a title. The "Paid" invoice printed off your account has all the needed info my state requires but lacks good proof of authenticity. Why couldn't the GL people sign and notarize a fresh copy of the paid invoice to prove you are the owner? You could pay the notary directly right then if you planned on putting a title on it. The notary could double check the VIN to the invoice too since the load out guys I had at Barstow couldn't even get the 4 digit lot number right. I felt like I was missing something driving away with nothing but a ratty, printed invoice with no signatures or official looking receipts. If I got caught speeding up the hill and pulled over I would have had a big story to tell how I got this truck.

Simple answer about SF-97 vs Paid Invoice...

FACT: ALL US Government Data Plates state: PROPERTY OF U.S. GOVERNMENT

- GL NEVER owned these vehicles. The Federal Government DOES own them before AND through the auction process!
- GL is ONLY the contractor the handles the LIQUIDATION (conversion to cash) of GOVERNMENT PROPERTY (NOT "GL property" - ever!).
- ONLY the Federal Government can release the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT's PROPERTY to the ownership of ANY other entity.
- The Federal Government uses the STANDARD FORM - 97 (SF-97) as their OFFICIAL RELEASE OF OWNERSHIP and authorizes the property to be transferred to PRIVATE OWNERSHIP.

Pretty simply really.
The old saying "YOU CAN'T FIGHT CITY HALL" applies quite well here. Their game - THEIR RULES ! ! !

 

[ALL4GLH]

FYI, if you lose the SF97 and then try to get a duplicate they charge an additional $30 fee on top of the $60 fee you already paid.

 

[m16ty]

There are ways to get a title in TN without a sf97 but it's a mountain of paperwork, fees, and fighting with the DMV. I'd much rather pay the $60 for the sf97.

 

[Warthog]

Some states will not issue any type of registration or title without the SF-97. Oklahoma is on of them. No SF-97, no title. And every vehicle has to have a title.