Cat 3208 swap in a bobbed deuce

[shannondeese]

So there is nothing wrong with my bobbed Deuce's motor. It has 40,000 miles on it and I put 37,000 of those miles on it. But I've got this cat 3208 with an Allison hooked to it. I want to swap in the Cat. Am I crazy. The cat has 36,000 miles on it. Its a 250 hp version. I tow a lot and daily drive my Deuce.

 

[welldigger]

I'd stick it in. That cat is barely broke in.

 

[Speedzilla]

If you are going to use the Allison, I assume it isn't an overdrive so you will lose a lot of top end. What model is the Allison? If you aren't using the Allison, no big deal!

 

[camoyj7]

Ranchhopper did that swap a few years age using a 5 ton 5spd. http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?54211-Engine-and-trans-swap-done

 

[shannondeese]

I'm not sure what the Allison is but I know it doesn't have overdrive. Although there is a spicer 7014 brownie box behind it. The spicer has 4 gears. Double low, low, 1 to 1, and overdrive. It is a cable shift set up. I'd have to move the transfer case to use it. I am thinking I might try to fit it in there too.

 

[welldigger]

I'm not sure what the Allison is but I know it doesn't have overdrive. Although there is a spicer 7014 brownie box behind it. The spicer has 4 gears. Double low, low, 1 to 1, and overdrive. It is a cable shift set up. I'd have to move the transfer case to use it. I am thinking I might try to fit it in there too.

That would be a lot of fab work but, if you succeeded it sure would be awesome.

 

[rchalmers3]

Tell us more about that Spicer brownie! Post up some photos if you got-em. I think that unit sounds wonderful and would personally move the transfer case back to make room for more gearing!

Rick

 

[Diecorpse]

What are you going to do with the other motor and trans?

 

[VPed]

Every time I hear about moving the transfer case back, I wonder about the u-joint angles to the front-rear axle at full suspension compression/extension. Does anyone know the limit before issues arise?

 

[porkysplace]

Every time I hear about moving the transfer case back, I wonder about the u-joint angles to the front-rear axle at full suspension compression/extension. Does anyone know the limit before issues arise?

You would have to move the axles back to keep full travel .

 

[shannondeese]

I'm running a bobbed deuce. And my friend ownes high angle driveline. So driveshafts won't be an issue. I'll take some pictures of the brownie box tonight after work.

 

[shannondeese]

The Spicer 7041 gear ratios are, 2.31 Double Low, 1.21 Low, 1-1 direct, and .83 OD. Unfortunately I have been measuring and have come to the conclusion that a bobbed Deuce doesn't have enough room to run the Cat, Allison, Spicer, and T-case. So now I am going to have to look for another Deuce so I can make a crew cab and have the length I need to make it all work. I am not sure why the pictures turned. I took them the right way. Sorry about that. Oh well it was an idea that will be shelved for awhile.

 

[73m819]

You would have a lonnnnnnnnnng front drive shaft if you move the transfer back, also will it clear the power pack, could be hard to power a front winch if you have one

Well I went up and read the black type (does not show up on od background), see you have come the this same conclusion