5th gear noise. I am guessing this is not suppose to move.

[CMXterra]

In the last hours of a 768 mile trip I started to hear a chattering noise from 5th gear when coasting.

After getting her home I pulled the top of the transmission and found this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3Rse5s4HcM&feature=share&list=UUpvkOGOMwWOSMgd60sKHWKQ

I am guessing that the gear is not suppose to move like that. Also guessing that the chattering you hear at the end of the video is what I was hearing while coasting.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

 

[CMXterra]

ok..

A little more info.

Yes it is suppose to move like that (duh moment after I looked at it more closely)

With the clutch in I can rotate the bottom shafts in both 4th and 5th and I do not see any missing teeth. The noise I heard sounding something like what is in the video but only presented itself while in 5th gear and coasting (no throttle). If it was there under throttle I did not hear it.

It does not make the noise in any other gear while coasting.

I am going to check to make sure all the bolts are tight on the output shaft as well as the drive shaft between the rear axles. Also going to see if there is any wiggle on any of the ujoints.

Any other suggestions?

 

[nosajb15af]

Thats your 1st/reverse sliding gear. the movement is correct. I cant hear the chatter, im on my work computer with no speakers. But from just looking, your selector gear is rubbing your reverse when you spun it. Make sure its centered and clears properly when in N. Your shifter should has adjustments.

 

[nosajb15af]

Ill listen when I get home later tonight.

 

[CMXterra]

Found it.

Missing teeth.

 

[nosajb15af]

Haha, you need the same shaft I need. Boyce Equipment has them.

 

[nosajb15af]

Here is mine....

 

[nosajb15af]

Ill trade you shafts....1st for 5th. lol

 

[CMXterra]

Gonna have to check them. Gonna just swap the transmission and rebuild this one. Spares are good!

 

[CMXterra]

Haha, you need the same shaft I need. Boyce Equipment has them.

Not seeing them on their website. Did you have to call them? How much if you don't mind me asking?

 

[nosajb15af]

Had to call them, also Sam Wiener has them...and Adelman's has whole transmissions for $400

 

[nosajb15af]

Just got off phone with them. $75 used, $135 new. In stock ---- Sam Wiener

 

[CMXterra]

Just got off phone with them. $75 used, $135 new. In stock ---- Sam Wiener

Is there a particular name to that shaft? Don't want to call them and ask for the dohicky shaft that works in the thing-a-magig.

Edit to add:

Just called them and they are looking it up. I figure for those prices I can rebuild that one and have a spare transmission.

 

[nosajb15af]

I just wrapped up work early to head down there and get mine. (20 minute trip) If you are buying a used one let me know and ill look at it before you buy and let you know if its good. --- no reason thats its bad..but you never know.

 

[m-35tom]

that is a seperate gear on the counter shaft. but you will need more, all that metal in the bearings to start with.

 

[nosajb15af]

that is a seperate gear on the counter shaft. but you will need more, all that metal in the bearings to start with.

Yeah, Wiener told me they dont separate the gears from the shaft...its a all in one buy. You think the gear chunks made it to the bearings? I would figure they would have just fell and settled to the bottom like mine. As a precaution i still pulled the bearings and cleaned them, but they were in good shape.

 

[212sparky]

Here is a source close to you. http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?p=1403976

 

[CMXterra]

Here is a source close to you. http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?p=1403976

Thanks Sparky. I had actually talked to Scott earlier and am picking up a pulled transmission from him along with a parts transmission to scavage the shaft. Going to try to rebuild after cleaning my current one really good.

Scott is a good guy to have near me. (He is who I got my 109 from originally)

 

[m-35tom]

Yeah, Wiener told me they dont separate the gears from the shaft...its a all in one buy. You think the gear chunks made it to the bearings? I would figure they would have just fell and settled to the bottom like mine. As a precaution i still pulled the bearings and cleaned them, but they were in good shape.

I assume you mean on a used shaft. with all that metal running around in the oil, I doubt the bearings were in usable shape, but you will be the first to know!

 

[nosajb15af]

I can see your point of there was shavings. But mine were chunks, and sank. Bearings cleaned and checked good..smooth roll, no play, ect...