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New 5 tonner, Recovered!

Kawgomoo

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Well after much anticipation and searching i finally pulled the trigger and picked me up a 5 ton m923a1.

Won it off GL, Fontana yard.

This was my first time buying off GL, and my first time driving a 5ton. I had only seen one in person, once, the day before when a fellow member here took time to walk me around his truck.

Needless to say i was a little nervous. Ive read all the horror stories. But from what i could tell, it seemed like most the problems people have they bring on themselves. At least by taking others "for their word" on the condition of the truck. I could see this truck start and move under its own power. But other than that. No idea.

In the GL video they show the truck start, pull forward pull back. thats it. The in cab video was with the truck shut down, so no gauges or anything. I noticed the next item number they did the same thing but the in cab video was still with the truck running. This raised some doubt in my mind. But not enough apparently. I was off to bid!

Once i won and paid for the truck i was off to pick it up! I had everything i needed...or so i had hoped. Tools, airhose, glad hand connector, you name it! Once i got to the yard i realized the truck had a brand new inflator hose setup, new safety triangles, tire tools, bottle jack, shovel, fire axe, pick axe and handle. all brand new in their respective cardboard boxes. Truck was almost on Full of fuel too! sweet!

Truck started with a jump. The lot attendant started it, with a huff of ether. No idea why he did that, its 80 degree day in socal. But i dont speak spanish and he dont speak english so that will just remain a mystery. Once the truck was running he took off. They say no working on the truck, but i was escorted back there with my car full of tools and left at it. I dont think anyone really cares so long as you dont make a mess on the ground.

Trucks running, i thought i saw a little smoke coming from the dash. I write it off as dust blowing off the truck from sitting. I pull the truck to the front of the lot and let it run. The wife comments she thought she saw some smoke from under the hood, or maybe it was just dust? Leave truck running, go check out another item for a member real fast. Come back, jump in the truck and hit the road.

As soon as i jumped in the cab i had that sinking feeling. Seemed awful hot and humid in there, with that unmistakable sweet smell of coolant. But with the truck sitting, you didnt really notice anything. Pulled out the lot and out onto slover. Once the truck was moving forward, all the steam and crap was blowing into the cab through the air vents. It was a pure clam bake! Coolant by this time was starting to pool on the floor. I was about 100 yards from the GL lot. OH CRAP! What do i do now? When i pulled out the lot, i wanted to go directly to an auto parts store and look it over. This didnt happen. I went the wrong way, dead locked in traffic. People zippin all about, lookin for a place to ditch this beast and fast! Couldnt see out the **** windows because of all the steam.

I saw a little residential area and whipped in. Popped the hood and shut the truck down {will it start off its own batteries? i wondered} Knowing it was just a heater core issue i grabbed some gloves and a screwdriver and climbed up. Luckily these military trucks have everything covered. Each heater hose has petcock where it comes out the engine. Blow a line or something just shut off the petcocks and your golden! I still looped the line while i was there just for good measure though. After about ten minutes i closed it back up, fired the truck off her own batts and was off again.

Made the rest of the drive with only a few small issues.

Right headlight would occasionally flicker. Found out the hood insulation had fallen down and this was rubbing the back of the head light. maybe wiggling the connection. I have corrected the hood liner issue will see if the problem persists.

Tail lights are dim. Could be a bad ground, could just be the way they are. Also if parking brake is set tail lights {running lights} turn off. This seems very strange to me.

Has a small drip from trans pan, that was obviously over tightened and split the gasket at last service. easy fix. everything else looks real good on the truck. Ran about 65 all the from Fontana to Phoenix, it slowed to about 50 going up the grades but i realized if i just pinned the throttle before i hit the grade it would roll through it much better with minimal speed loss.

No air going to the horns. Voltage is present, solenoid clicks. No honk.

Need to check and adjust primary air pressure, seems about 10psi high.

Thats about it! I applied for my sf97 today {1-29-14} we will see how long it takes!

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Scar59

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Kaw,
Good for you. Nothing like a recovery with a little excitment. Plus a tool box full of goodies and a little swamper for the left seat. Have fun and stay safe.
JC
 

Kawgomoo

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I'll tell you what. I am still AMPED from the recovery. Its a high that doesn't quickly fade. About an hour from home i was just wishing the drive to be over. I was miserable!!

But that day after glow is something to behold. It really felt like an accomplishment to bring her in.

Funny thing last night i was out messing with the truck. Apparently my keys fell out my pocket while i was crawling around under it at 2am, and the drip pan got slid over top of them. After tearing my house apart this morning looking for the keys i just said eff it. Fired up the 5 ton, threw my son in the pass seat and took his butt to class. I got a good laugh from the girls in the office. They are used to my unusual antics by now.

I can see how stuff goes missing at fontana. Its not a military base. Its in the middle of an industrial area {in the hood}, and there is no supervision once you are in the lot. You could easily walk from truck to truck tossing crap in your boxes off other trucks. I may be reading the paperwork wrong, but there is a report suggesting my truck had brand new top and bows recently. i would assume those would still be in the wrapping just like the tools. they werent in the gl pictures either. but i wouldnt doubt a little cherry picking goes on at that place.
 
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Kawgomoo

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there is a lot of cherry picking going on there iv heard it from a lot of guys.
As long as the pickin' happens BEFORE the photos and auction take place... it doesnt really bother me so much. But the thought of people stealin crap off your lotted truck after or while your bidding on it. Thats just low. Anyway around it, if its not mine i dont want any part of it.
 

Kawgomoo

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Ok so apparently i have no air going to the governor or horns. Seems the PPV is not opening from what i can gather {google+steelsoldiers=success}

Gettin ready to climb under it and see what i can't dig up.

Has anyone here ever had any success getting p2p to work on a Mac?
 

WRMorrison

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Congrats on the (fairly) uneventful recovery! I hear there's going to be another MV show in early March; at an airfield that I can't think of right now...

-WRM
 

wyorunner

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Ok so apparently i have no air going to the governor or horns. Seems the PPV is not opening from what i can gather {google+steelsoldiers=success}

Gettin ready to climb under it and see what i can't dig up.

Has anyone here ever had any success getting p2p to work on a Mac?
Kaw,

I tried to get it to work with no success. The only thing I could think of that I did not try was to run a VMware Virtual windows. Sorry not much help. Welcome to the 5ton club and I imagine one day in the future we may run into each other as we are moving to AZ this summer, and I will be purchasing another truck out of Cali. Congratulations on the successful recovery.

-Wyo
 

Trailboss

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Congrats on your first one! Great luck with all the tools - they are usually the first to walk. You'll enjoy working out the kinks.
 

Kawgomoo

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Well i got the No Horns/Wipers/Governor issue fixed. Just as many before on SS have said, it was the PPV.

It seems that others have messed with it in the past. The lock wire was cut and missing, the lock nut was installed upside down.

After removal and a thorough cleaning the valve was reinstalled, and adjusted by turning on the wipers as the truck aired up, and backing out the adjustor on the ppv until the wipers started to run.

Now my air pressure holds at 125 instead of 150, the compressor doesnt pop off every 3 seconds, the horn and wipers all work. Quick easy fix. Mineral spirits, a tooth brush and about ten minutes is all it took.

The pintle shaft is a bit rusty, and doesnt move. Not sure if it should. I will replace the valve anyways, but at least i know for sure thats what was wrong with it. {instant gratification}

Many thanks to SS and all its contributors! The tm's are impossible to read and follow..for me anyways.

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Kawgomoo

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Congrats on your first one! Great luck with all the tools - they are usually the first to walk. You'll enjoy working out the kinks.

You are absolutely right. I already have my eye on a harsco truck with the 8.3 cta. The little bugs are what make it fun for me! I feel like im back on the job.
 

MtnSnow

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Congrats! Mine from Fontana was stripped of tools when it was picked up but we know they were there when I was bidding on it....F'n thieves.
 

Kawgomoo

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Ah that sucks man! This one had the belly boxes shut in the photos. No clue what i was getting.

I was thankful to have all the tire tools, and doubly thankful not to need them!
 

MtnSnow

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Thanks for the commissary...not much to do but purchase new tools to keep in it which I have done. good thing I had a harbor freight location near by
 

M35A2-AZ

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That is a problem at Fontana,other places like Barstow they stay with you all the time.
If it is not yours just keep your hands off it!!!!
 

162tcat

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I've seen military personnel out looking for parts in the yard too. Whenever I bid on something, I try to be at the lot looking at it and bid from my phone. Sometimes the pictures are months old. If I win, I attach my pad locks to the boxes if anything is in them and take pics of the truck right then. If anything disappears between then and when my paperwork clears, I have good evidence.
 

Karl kostman

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Congrats on a fairly normal recovery and a huge congrats on the tools SCORE, I also got a nice 939 series it came with 2 cargo covers and a bad control box in the bed! Welcome to the club!!!
KK
 
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