Wire Spec

[Artisan]

What is the proper way to spec wire / how do I call out this;

Wire
Color = BLACK
2 Wire in one round casing
5/8" OD
#4 Stranded Wires (high amp usage, a small winch)
Mil Spec?
I want it to be very plyable, easy to coil, so FINE Stranding yes? )

The connector I am using is an IIT CANNON Bayonet Plug #24-9S

( CA3106E24-9SB )It is a 2 socket Amphenol type

 

[gimpyrobb]

#4 is rated up to 70amps. Do you know what the amp draw is for the winch?

Yes, fine strand, probably should look into welding leads.

 

[quickfarms]

You need to look at the spec for the particular wire. Read the manufacturers tables. The capacity varies depending on the insulation type and number of conductors.

 

[Artisan]

#4 is rated up to 70amps. Do you know what the amp draw is for the winch?

Yes, fine strand, probably should look into welding leads.

50A Circuit breaker, it is a little WARN 1500 / 2000 unit.

 

[Artisan]

I am electrical ignorant.

Tables? I never work w/ wire, welding leads sounds about right.
Who makes that stuff and I will research.

 

[gimpyrobb]

If you type 261597242239 in the search box on egay, you will find wire that looks to be quality.

 

[Artisan]

Thanx Gimp but I am looking for 1 cable that has 2 "Conductors" inside it.

The Conductors need to be #4, stranded.


The outside of the cable needs to be ROUND to fit my plug perfectly.

The cable needs to be BLACK w/ an OD of real close to 5/8" .


Somewhere there is probably a manufacturer that has a WIRE SPECIFIER program
where you just punch in your parameters and it spits out a P/N

 

[Artisan]

Thanx Gimp but I am looking for 1 cable that has 2 "Conductors" inside it.

The Conductors need to be #4, stranded.


The outside of the cable needs to be ROUND to fit my plug perfectly.

The cable needs to be BLACK w/ an OD of real close to 5/8" .


Somewhere there is probably a manufacturer that has a WIRE SPECIFIER program
where you just punch in your parameters and it spits out a P/N

 

[m109a2]

Always use stranded wire on dc.

 

[MtnSnow]

Artisan,

I believe the type of cable you are looking for commonly known as "SO" cable. Here is a easy reference table to use for AMP vs length.
http://www.stayonline.com/reference-circuit-ampacity.aspx

I would say "SOOW" would be best as it is oil and weather resistant.

 

[gimpyrobb]

According to that link, I would say use VCTF.

 

[MtnSnow]

Why would you want to use VCTF since it's rated for 70°C & for use in dry locations? Where as the SOOW or even STOW is rated for 90*C & 105C* as well as "outdoor" rated...

 

[Artisan]

Ah HA!

Starting to get some place here.

Thank U Mtn

This wire I need will go from the crane winch to a "box" maybe even
a Fat 50 ammo can so a 10' piece is more than enough, from there
it is powered by a Slave Cable so we should be A-Ok on the length vs amps issue.

 

[Artisan]

The site Mtn sent us to has THIS wire. It is 3 conductor, not two, I still
am looking, they want $7.00 a foot for that stuff too!

I also saw this on that website;

SOOW Jacket is rated to 600 Volts. Jacket is Oil resistant and Outdoor Weather resistant. Typically used for outdoor extra hard usage applications. Jacket is Oil resistant and constructed from NBR/PVC Rubber. The conductors are annealed (soft) copper and are insulated with NBR/PVC Rubber. Flexible cord is rated to 90°C for use in outdoor locations. The Wire colors are in compliance with North American Color Code (NACC). UL 62 and UL 1581.


cUL rated for outdoor use. Advantage of NBR/PVC SOOW jacket over typical rubber SOOW is it provides a smooth surface for sliding when in movement and it picks up less debris. Disadvantage is at very cold temperatures it becomes more rigid than rubber. UL General-Use guidance for Ampacity of current-carrying conductors is contingent upon length (50 Feet or less) and number of current carrying conductors.


I will be in cold w/ it, to "0F" , I probably will not be in "Very Cold" w/ it "-0F"

 

[gimpyrobb]

Why would you want to use VCTF since it's rated for 70°C & for use in dry locations? Where as the SOOW or even STOW is rated for 90*C & 105C* as well as "outdoor" rated...

I said that simply from a materials construction stand point. I didn't realize the deficiencies it had!

 

[MtnSnow]

Gotcha Just was wondering if there was something new to it from what I had known....Always looking to learn more