Vin# issues M-813

[my blood flows OD]

I'm having a hard time getting my 72 M-813 registered in NH.
My truck was a fire truck for Chester NH fire dept and registered to them up till 2015.
they sold it to a guy that flipped it to me within a month.
The issue is The vin# on the bill of sale and the vin# on the registration has the 5th caricature as a"Q".
When my town office ran it, it didn't work as a vin#. When it is run as an "O" it works.
you can see where the confusion would be in the pic below.
my town wanted me to go and get a new vin# as a salvage title.
I meet with the salvage title person today and he wanted to know if there is a 2nd vin# on the frame that would more clearly show this as an "O"?
He said it would save a lot of confusion.
I have no idea how the fire dept was able to register it with the wrong vin#.

 

[bikeman]

stand-by, information coming.

 

[my blood flows OD]

Thank you. Standing by.

 

[bikeman]

Ok, need more information, can you confirm or picture the rest of the Data Plate? I have Trucks coming up with Registration numbers NL-zero -8-zer-5 and NL-zero-8Q5, but no for NL -O-8-O-5 or -O-8-zero-5. but both are M813A1s mfg in 1980, one W/W one without.

 

[my blood flows OD]

 

[NDT]

The "C329" number is your VIN, that is what is on the frame. The "N . . . " set of letters is the Army registration number and is not part of the VIN.

 

[my blood flows OD]

I though the town office lady said it need 15 letters/numbers to work as a vin#? What does your 5 ton registration and title say?

 

[NDT]

I though the town office lady said it need 15 letters/numbers to work as a vin#? What does your 5 ton registration and title say?

Have her investigate that vehicles from the 70's and before did not have 15 digit VINs. This should be in her guidebooks. My 5 ton truck has the VIN listed as the C . . . number.

 

[MtnSnow]

NL0805 or NL08Q5 is the Army's internal registration number

C329-10372 is the Serial number of the truck (aka VIN number) This number can usually be found on the frame under the multiple layers of paint

 

[my blood flows OD]

Does this very state to state. Is there anyone out there that has a similar 809 truck that is titled and registered in New Hampshire that can check there reg and title to see what is required?
if that is indeed the case then I would a happy camper, because that would eliminate the "Q"

 

[Scar59]

Here in KY, I've used the registration and vehicle s/n as a composite VIN #. Had the title from GL and GP reflect the same number. No problems with the county clerks office. My M813 w/w is registered as a Historic Vehicle, the rest are "Farm trucks". Easy-peasy....

 

[GasTurbineTech]

I just registered my M931A2 as an antique. Not your exact scenario, but maybe this will help. I did some title work at town hall and the sent me to a local DMV for plates.
Here is some of the registration information . I didn't see when they entered it as an AMGEN vs BMY, but I don't care what they call it. No 15/16 digit vin required.
$36 for my registration.

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[bikeman]

Correct above, the entire C-number is your Truck's Serial number, or it's VIN. The registration number is not a VIN. I can provide a screen shot of an Army record that says that much, when I get to work tomorrow.

 

[my blood flows OD]

Thank you guys.
this is all really useful info.
bikeman that would help out huge.
and gas turbine it is awesome to see that reg in NH with the correct #.
this is the old reg.
Now I just need to get a bill of sale and a vin varification to match just the serial # without the prefix and I should be good to go? Correct?

 

[GasTurbineTech]

I'm thought with a bill of sale and this old registration is all you need.

Found this on the DMV site:

This should be a title exempt, private sale. Bill of sale and old registration. How can the Town Hall not like the old State issued registration?

I'm not an expert for sure, so I could be completely wrong!

Now, if you can get a vin verification signed with the shorter number, might be easier.

 

[my blood flows OD]

Over 18000 lbs in NH needs to have a title regardless of age.
thats what I'm being told.

 

[my blood flows OD]

https://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/dmv/title/apply/exempt.htm

 

[my blood flows OD]

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XXI/259/259-41.htm

 

[bikeman]

Sent you a PM for email address. The System I have access to confirms that your S/N is Reg# NL-ZERO-8Q5. All other information matches your data plate as well.

 

[bikeman]

Email sent. Good Luck.