balance the tires on a 5 ton

[Russ Knight]

Is there a way to balance the tires on a 5 ton? If not, will removing the CTIS stuff help?

 

[red]

I ran about 1/2 a gallon of coolant in each of my 395's on the wrecker. Same concept as the dynabeads/airsoft BB's/powder etc...

 

[doghead]

Balancing tires has been discussed numerous times on the site.

May I suggest you attempt to search before you post.

 

[BKubu]

If your A2 has the counterweights, the CTIS should not cause the tires to be out of balance.

 

[simp5782]

Hes got 14.00 AT2s. They ride rough in my opinion i told him to play with the pressures front and rear to find a happy medium. Mine on AT2s was 45 rear 65 front

I believe he means split the pressures between tires rear @ ? Psi and fronts @ ? Psi

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[gringeltaube]

Is there a way to balance the tires on a 5 ton? ............

Short answer: YES

Not so short: do some reading, here:
https://www.steelsoldiers.com/showt...ing-at-55-60&p=1535358&viewfull=1#post1535358
https://www.steelsoldiers.com/showt...tire-harmonics&p=354685&viewfull=1#post354685
https://www.steelsoldiers.com/showt...minum-Wheels&p=1924367&viewfull=1#post1924367
https://www.steelsoldiers.com/showt...minum-Wheels&p=1924371&viewfull=1#post1924371
https://www.steelsoldiers.com/showt...minum-Wheels&p=1924387&viewfull=1#post1924387
https://www.steelsoldiers.com/showt...minum-Wheels&p=1924400&viewfull=1#post1924400

 

[Russ Knight]

Thank you for the help!

 

[Russ Knight]

Hes got 14.00 AT2s. They ride rough in my opinion i told him to play with the pressures front and rear to find a happy medium. Mine on AT2s was 45 rear 65 front

I believe he means split the pressures between tires rear @ ? Psi and fronts @ ? Psi

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Yes, that's what I meant. I think the front left tire is the culprit. Steering wheel does not shake but the whole truck bounces. At 60 mph it's pretty smooth. Thinking about canning the CTIS as you suggested.

 

[tobyS]

Not sure why, but my Goodyear 14.00 seem to be egg shaped.....was killing my back. Put 395 Mich XZL on the rears and today get the fronts....with new Monroe shocks. Otherwise the GY are excellent looking tires with lots of tread. Bounce was worse than any bias tire I have ever had. Today will tell... with 7 new.

 

[Russ Knight]

What are the best (smoothest riding) tires for the street?

 

[av8or]

Have your tires cut round. It will make a world of difference. It was the only I could get the bounce out. Then balance with your favorite method.

 

[Russ Knight]

I don't think anyone here has the equipment to do it.

 

[F18hornetM]

Most truck tire shops can balance 1100x20's. I took my Goodyears off the M931 to work [Fleet shop] and balanced them. Found one that still had the flap rolled up in in. The way new tires come. Guess some one forgot that. ooooops

 

[TechnoWeenie]

What are the best (smoothest riding) tires for the street?

1100s,G177s.... They're an on road tire after all..

 

[98G]

1100s,G177s.... They're an on road tire after all..

I'm not so sure.

The smoothest riding 5ton I've driven is Lindsey97's tan M923 with HEMTT rims and 16.00R20 XZLs. I speculate that the taller sidewalls allow for more flex.

(I've driven bunches of these trucks with all kinds of tires and sizes. Lindsey's truck stands out. )

 

[red]

I don't think anyone here has the equipment to do it.

Tires of this size ain't balanced by the traditional clamp on/stick on weights like a regular car and 1 ton truck. They will either use centramatics or open up the tire/wheel and toss in some material (coolant, sand, powder, airsoft BB's, etc).

If your tires have the tar in them from the runflats then only coolant or centramatics will work. Can't use the solid balancing media because it will stick to the tar and clump up, making the balance worse.

 

[TechnoWeenie]

HEMTT rims and 16.00R20 XZLs.

That's cheating!

 

[Russ Knight]

Are there any disadvantages of removing the runflat ring? Looks like the tractor with the pallet forks is the easiest method. I'd really like to remove them all.

 

[F18hornetM]

Tires of this size ain't balanced by the traditional clamp on/stick on weights like a regular car and 1 ton truck. They will either use centramatics or open up the tire/wheel and toss in some material (coolant, sand, powder, airsoft BB's, etc).

If your tires have the tar in them from the runflats then only coolant or centramatics will work. Can't use the solid balancing media because it will stick to the tar and clump up, making the balance worse.

The hammer driven on [conventional weights] work just fine on the lock bead rim wheel. These tires had tubes.
We've tried several kinds of powder wights in our tubeless tires at work. Didn't have great success with them, we use the hammer on instead. Usually we only do the front tires. .Years ago we had a vendor who would shave badly out of round tires. There is no longer anyone in my area who does that.

 

[tobyS]

Michelin XZL 395's are on my 929 but I have not put the shocks on yet. Ride has improved. I need a few more miles but most of my bounce seems to have calmed down. With a heavy load of concrete, it is definitely different than 14.00's...more stable. They have a wider footprint than the Goodyear AT-2 14.00, are 2" shorter.

There is a "Plus" version and a non-plus version of the Michelin XZL. On the plus version, they have a slightly shorter lug, but I don't know of any other differences. I got the non-plus version with the full lug. That may be the source of my noise, as there is a lot of area in contact with the ground. I'm left wondering about the Plus version, with several 32's not there on the tread. Did they take a non-plus and true it up? Is XZL "Plus" a smother ride than the full lugged version? Maybe someone with the XZL Plus version knows that will chime in.