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They made this same basic truck in 3 & 4 axles as well. Were going to check TMs for the 3 & 4 axle trucks, as a couple of the guys thought those trucks came with TMs in English, and some of the basic operations were the same for all 3 trucks.Holy cow, small world. we had 18 of those parked in our compound, in 1990, Oberweiss ge, i think they were part of Mace-b, they were being processed to DRMO at Oberweiss.
found this
http://www.mace-b.com/38TMW/Bitburg/Oberweis.htm
The more I look at this truck, I dont think it was the same, I seem to remember 4 or 5 axles. they were for sure Mann, ...the memory fads with each passing day..google..the trucks we had were m1001, might be a good place for TM
Tracer, thanks for the remark, but I did not do that much (tried but did not work), whatever. If you need a quick translation of something, let me know.Holy cow, small world. we had 18 of those parked in our compound, in 1990, Oberweiss ge, i think they were part of Mace-b, they were being processed to DRMO at Oberweiss.
found this
http://www.mace-b.com/38TMW/Bitburg/Oberweis.htm1
The more I look at this truck, I dont think it was the same, I seem to remember 4 or 5 axles. they were for sure Mann, ...the memory fads with each passing day..google..the trucks we had were m1001, might be a good place for TM
Excellent idea. I'll start on it tomorrow. Today is a high priority day....The Wife's birthday.Holy cow, small world. we had 18 of those parked in our compound, in 1990, Oberweiss ge, i think they were part of Mace-b, they were being processed to DRMO at Oberweiss.
found this
http://www.mace-b.com/38TMW/Bitburg/Oberweis.htm
The more I look at this truck, I dont think it was the same, I seem to remember 4 or 5 axles. they were for sure Mann, ...the memory fads with each passing day..google..the trucks we had were m1001, might be a good place for TM
Excellent idea. I'll start on it tomorrow. Today is a high priority day....The Wife's birthday.
That be it!!I thought this truck looked familiar ---> Auction Wins Week of 9-22-2016
Glad to see it went to a good home!
Few people think about it now, but during the cold war, most West German transport trucks were compatible to German Army transport trucks. In the early 70's, if you took notice, there were NATO slave receptacles and openings for a Air observer/Air Defense MG on top of the trucks. A truck driver told me that civ. transport firms got a tax break, if they agreed to purchase compatible trucks, and agree to "sign over" their trucks to the German Army in case of war. Its a thing of the past now.
.Sorry to chime in so late, but as far as I know, those MAN M-1001, etc. trucks were mostly used for supporting Pershing-II missiles and GLCMs (Ground Launched Cruise Missiles) in the European theater. Both were deployed at about the same time in Germany around 1983. I´ve seen MAN tractors, recovery vehicles and support trucks. Many of those were surplussed in the early 90s after the Iron Curtain had come down.
I´ve never seen Patriot launchers being pulled by MANs, but of course, nothing is impossible. All the Patriot batteries I saw had HEMTT tractors and other support vehicles.
It wasn't the firing battery's that had them. It was the Support Unit, specifically the 611th Ord, in Meisau. At the 611th, we had a Float Radar and several, (maybe 4-6) Patriot Launchers. Float equipment was a "permanent" Loaner. When a radar or launcher had problems so bad that it could not be returned to FMC, (Fully Mission Capable) status in a timely manner, we "traded" equipment. Then fixed it at our shops in Meisau.
Sadly, due to money and Air Defense politics, our unit had all this equipment, and no way to move it. So the owning unit had to drive to Meisau, from all over Germany, and then drop off the "junker" and then tow the "good" equipment home. That took too much time. So a real smart guy, the Chief of Staff, Maintenance, Col. PP found out that the Pershing and GLCM were going away. And that the Tractors would be more then able to tow our Floats. So he did some kind of dope deal to get several, I think 8 of them Transferred to the 611th.
You could always recognize the MANs at a distance because the MAN M-1001s were still in MERDC camouflage, while the HEMTTs sported the newer three-colour NATO paint scheme right from the manufacturer.
Where at?That´s an amazing bit of information, thanks very much ! I´m always collecting every information about the US Forces in Germany during the Cold War in the 80s. I grew up just a few hundred yards from an air defence base that first had Nike Hercules, and then Patriot missiles. Probably, that got me infected by the green bug...![]()
The site was near Holzwickede-Hengsen, near Dortmund. Basically protecting the Ruhr area against those expected russian bombers.Where at?
Come down to Burgkunstadt, and I will take you to a HAWK site near here. I was in that unit 10.5 years. Beers better here TOO!!!!!!I´m pretty sure that when the Dortmund/Hengsen missile site converted to Patriot, those Patriots were Bundeswehr (german army) missiles, no longer U.S. ones. So in the 90s the site was manned only with Bundeswehr troops, as far as local rumor went.
I guess one reason for this was that Nike had a nuclear capability (and those warheads were always guarded by U.S. troops), while Patriot didn´t have that. When West German troops used nuclear-capable weapons, they always had U.S. troops attached who had full custody over the warheads.
One day, when I go into retirement, I´ll have to write up the exact history of that missile site. There are a lot of rumors in the local population, sometimes a newspaper article, but nothing solid and complete.
About ten years ago, I visited another Nike site, a hundred kilometers north of here. That one was never converted from Nike to Patriot, so you could still recognize the pads for the Nke launch systems, the hangars (which were still there), and most of the other buildings. Of course, all the missile equipment had been removed.
But I´m deviating from the topic here. This topic was meant to thank you guys for the work you´ve done, and I would like to add my thanks, too.