M35A2 power steering options?

[290smallcam]

Before I get jumped on, yes I've googled and searched on here.waterloo and now Boyce Equipment offer power steering options for the M35. Both are 99% the same. Boyce offers a different pump. Boyce also states that it won't work with stock M35A2 or M35A3 wheels? Waterloo doesn't state this on their site. Is anyone running stock rim and tires without any problems? Or also running 43" with out rubbing or hitting? Wondering why Boyce states this?

 

[290smallcam]

No thoughts

 

[ldmack3]

I bought a 1971 A2 in Sept that already has power steering and super singles, 395/85R20. Don't know the manufacturer of the system but perhaps someone can ident. You can see where the tire is rubbing on the arm.
Hope this helps.

 

[290smallcam]

looks homemade. I see KIA stamped on the gearbox. Anyone know this set up.

 

[Senderofan]

Before I get jumped on, yes I've googled and searched on here.waterloo and now Boyce Equipment offer power steering options for the M35. Both are 99% the same. Boyce offers a different pump. Boyce also states that it won't work with stock M35A2 or M35A3 wheels? Waterloo doesn't state this on their site. Is anyone running stock rim and tires without any problems? Or also running 43" with out rubbing or hitting? Wondering why Boyce states this?

I purchased the Waterloo kit this winter for my A3. The owner, Tom, has a slightly different parts list for an A3 versus an A2. If your specs are different than an OEM A3.....I'd recommend emailing or calling Tom. He answered multiple emails from me and has said he'd be available to assist my installer......should there be any questions. I would think Boyce would also provide you more detailed information and advice regarding their kit.

 

[290smallcam]

I left voicemail with waterloo and emailed Boyce and haven't heard back from either one. It would be used on a A2.

 

[Senderofan]

I left voicemail with waterloo and emailed Boyce and haven't heard back from either one. It would be used on a A2.

If you have the time.........maybe email both of them. I got pretty prompt replies. Maybe they check their emails more frequently than voicemail?

 

[cattlerepairman]

I can vouch for Tom's kit. Perfect on my A2.


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[ldmack3]

Per your request 290smallcam.

 

[tommys2patrick]

I think KIA, the car manufacturer we see in commercials, makes an "A3" or "A4" version of the deuce that is used in Korea? If so this could be something they use. Perhaps someone converted it from Korean parts. Otherwise, those look like fairly large tires for an A2 deuce so some rubbing would likely be expected I would think. I think some of the popular conversion kits usually involve frame modifications that inset the gear box farther into the frame requiring substantial frame reinforcement IIRC. I would imagine it has a pump higher up connected to a fan belt as well. my 2 cents. I assume you want to reduce the rubbing? Or just curious what experience others have had with power steering conversions.

 

[290smallcam]

That is an A3 rim.

 

[silverstate55]

I have an early version of the Waterloo kit on my Deuce. I LOVE it; yes, there is some tire rubbing on the Pitman arm during hard right turns, but nothing I can’t live with. The benefits far outweigh that drawback, especially with 395s on MRAP wheels. If I had to do it all over again I’d go right back to the Waterloo kit....Tom offers outstanding customer service and responsiveness to questions/issues.

 

[M37M35]

Following this thread with interest, since I'm thinking hard about adding power steering to my deuce.

I can vouch for Tom's kit. Perfect on my A2.

Your signature says you have 11x20 tires. Are those on the stock A2 dished wheels?
Does the tire rub on the steering box or pitman arm?

On my deuce with the stock manual steering box mounted inside the frame, the tire comes awfully close to rubbing the pitman arm...

 

[cattlerepairman]

Following this thread with interest, since I'm thinking hard about adding power steering to my deuce.


Your signature says you have 11x20 tires. Are those on the stock A2 dished wheels?
Does the tire rub on the steering box or pitman arm?

On my deuce with the stock manual steering box mounted inside the frame, the tire comes awfully close to rubbing the pitman arm...

11.00R20 on stock Deuce wheels and no rubbing.

 

[290smallcam]

If anyone is running 43's on any type of rim, stock or other please inform us of any tire rubbing and of how bad. It looks like if you run a <MRAP rim I think there is no rubbing, but I don't know?

 

[montaillou]

This thread and the 8 roundabouts I drove this weekend have me thinking about this subject again.

Though, I'm switching to new wheels and will have to wait until they're on.

 

[290smallcam]

Right! Don't want to drop $3K on steering just to rub holes in a $375 tire! If waterloo's kit rubs, I'm out. Looks like the HF54 route would be better. Been looking at that forum a lot. Will need more fab work, but..... Wanting a reason to buy a power mig 180! Well let's keep this thing rolling until we get some clear answer's, Running 43" XML 's on stock split rims.

 

[290smallcam]

Also looked at Boyce Equipment hydraulic ram steering for $1,725. Don't know if it would be wise. It's cheaper, but one broken line and ur domded.

 

[davidb56]

Also looked at Boyce Equipment hydraulic ram steering for $1,725. Don't know if it would be wise. It's cheaper, but one broken line and ur domded.

True, but one broken brake line and..........

 

[M37M35]

11.00R20 on stock Deuce wheels and no rubbing.

That's good to hear, since I'm running the same tires and wheels.

Did you have to adjust the steering stops on the knuckles to keep the tire from rubbing, or are they still in the stock position?