Bought an M35A2, with a unique addition

[Danspomer]

Greetings, all.

This is my first post here. Thank you for welcoming me!

Last Tuesday, I took delivery of an M35A2 in great condition, but it has an oddity: a PK5800 knuckle boom crane lying in the back that apparently had been mounted before. The bed has been moved to accommodate the crane

Has anyone seen a version of this before? I’m just trying to gather info on what I have, and if it has been done before.

Thank you.

 

[Danspomer]

 

[simp5782]

@patracy

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[Danspomer]

West GA - FS/FT M35A2 deuce and a half 6x6 military truck multifuel HIAB knuckleboom crane winch truck

Item Name: FS/FT M35A2 deuce and a half 6x6 military truck multifuel HIAB knuckleboom crane winch truck Location: Buchanan, GA Zip Code: 30113 Item is for: Sale or Trade Sale Price: 7500 Trade Value or Items Looking For: M998 or variant, machine guns, or a M2 semi rifle Caliber: BIG Willing...

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Thank God. I thought I had lost my mind.

 

[cattlerepairman]

Let me state the obvious: No Deuce I ever looked at, came with anything useful in the bed, let alone a fri**n knuckleboom crane! No, I am not jealous, it just looks that way. Honest.

Your cargo bed is off a 5ton, not a Deuce. The front corners are the giveaway. Your wheel base is wayyyy longer than a stock M35A2. I can't tell whether you have an M36 (long version of the Deuce for 14ft bed) or whether your frame has been extended. In any case, it seems you have enough room to mount the crane which will make this a super useful truck to have around!

Someone spent some $$ on rims and tires as well. Looks sharp.

What does it have for PTO, hydraulics etc.?

And, no, I am not jealous. Honest.

 

[Danspomer]

Let me state the obvious: No Deuce I ever looked at, came with anything useful in the bed, let alone a fri**n knuckleboom crane! No, I am not jealous, it just looks that way. Honest.

Your cargo bed is off a 5ton, not a Deuce. The front corners are the giveaway. Your wheel base is wayyyy longer than a stock M35A2. I can't tell whether you have an M36 (long version of the Deuce for 14ft bed) or whether your frame has been extended. In any case, it seems you have enough room to mount the crane which will make this a super useful truck to have around!

Someone spent some $$ on rims and tires as well. Looks sharp.

What does it have for PTO, hydraulics etc.?

And, no, I am not jealous. Honest.

Text me. 720-519-5072

 

[Danspomer]

Does this help?

 

[SCM35A2]

Nice truck!

 

[eaw46]

That is a great addition to have on any truck. You are very lucky. Eddy

 

[cattlerepairman]

I'd say it's a frame stretched M35. Apparently, to accommodate both a full size 14ft bed and the knuckleboom.
While I like it, I am wondering why they didn't stretch a 5 ton. The Deuce doesn't have the oomph or weight carrying capacity to really use the bigger bed. Maybe they had a particular, specific use in mind.

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[cattlerepairman]

When you get around to it, I'd be curious to see pics of how they joined the frames...welded/plated, one hopes. The frame ought to be boxed, too, where the knuckleboom is going to sit. The truck is a winch truck, so it does have a PTO, but does it have a rear facing one as well, to run a hydraulic pump?

I know that an M36 chassis, fitted with the short 12ft Deuce bed instead of the 14ft bed, can accommodate a knuckleboom (the Canadian military did that on their Deuce variants). I looked at your pics again and your bed does appear to be an unaltered 14ft bed off an 800- or 900 series 5ton.

Canadian Forces, Princess Patricia Light Infantry, Engineers, Kandahar, 2002 (http://www.afghanistanacanadianstory.ca/content-accumulation/2002-2/)

 

[Danspomer]

When you get around to it, I'd be curious to see pics of how they joined the frames...welded/plated, one hopes. The frame ought to be boxed, too, where the knuckleboom is going to sit. The truck is a winch truck, so it does have a PTO, but does it have a rear facing one as well, to run a hydraulic pump?

I know that an M36 chassis, fitted with the short 12ft Deuce bed instead of the 14ft bed, can accommodate a knuckleboom (the Canadian military did that on their Deuce variants).

I’ll definitely take a look at the frame this weekend and let you know. And yes, it DOES have a PTO in the rear. I’ll take a closer look at everything next visit.

 

[frank8003]

so the boom crane is worth as much as the truck. Make it work.

 

[Mullaney]

I’ll definitely take a look at the frame this weekend and let you know. And yes, it DOES have a PTO in the rear. I’ll take a closer look at everything next visit.

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It could be possible that the previous owner never got around to attaching the crane to the truck. There are some super-duty very long bolts that attach it to the frame. The outriggers (appear in the lower left corner of your first picture) will hang down toward the ground (like the Canadian Princess Patricia truck) help keep you from turning over if you lift heavy over the sides.

Key will be the PTO to drive the hydraulic pump for the crane as
cattlerepairman mentioned in an earlier post.

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VERY NEAT addition for your truck, or something you could sell to buy other parts.

Welcome to the outfit! Half way across the country from where you are, but don't hesitate to take more pictures and post them here from under the truck. We might be able to figure out what kind of parts may already be waiting to be connected with hoses to get your crane moving...

 

[Danspomer]

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It could be possible that the previous owner never got around to attaching the crane to the truck. There are some super-duty very long bolts that attach it to the frame. The outriggers (appear in the lower left corner of your first picture) will hang down toward the ground (like the Canadian Princess Patricia truck) help keep you from turning over if you lift heavy over the sides.

Key will be the PTO to drive the hydraulic pump for the crane as
cattlerepairman mentioned in an earlier post.

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VERY NEAT addition for your truck, or something you could sell to buy other parts.

Welcome to the outfit! Half way across the country from where you are, but don't hesitate to take more pictures and post them here from under the truck. We might be able to figure out what kind of parts may already be waiting to be connected with hoses to get your crane moving...

 

[Mullaney]

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Wow! You even have the wooden pad to go under the outriggers to spread the weight if you are on soft ground or asphalt! (The pad with the white handle, Lower right). You should have a pair of those.

Don't know for sure what shape it is in, but it appears that you have all the parts.

 

[frank8003]

I’ll definitely take a look at the frame this weekend and let you know. And yes, it DOES have a PTO in the rear. I’ll take a closer look at everything next visit.

GEE, what DON'T it have!

 

[cbrTodd]

I looked at your pics again and your bed does appear to be an unaltered 14ft bed off an 800- or 900 series 5ton.

It does appear to have started as a 5 ton bed due to the taller front section, but it has been shortened. Otherwise that last section of the drop side wouldn't be shorter than the rest. Looking at the first side view, the frame ends just past the back axle, but the wheelbase is definitely longer than a stock M35. I'm wondering if they just moved the trunion and axles back with an M35 frame, sometime after already shortening a 14 foot 5 ton bed to fit in a 12 foot space. If so, the rivet holes in the frame from the original location would be evidence of it.

 

[cattlerepairman]

@cbrTodd I think you are right. I re-looked at the pic of the truck on the trailer and the rearmost bed section does appear shortened. Ok, so the M36 chassis is back in the running as a possibility

 

[Danspomer]

When you get around to it, I'd be curious to see pics of how they joined the frames...welded/plated, one hopes. The frame ought to be boxed, too, where the knuckleboom is going to sit. The truck is a winch truck, so it does have a PTO, but does it have a rear facing one as well, to run a hydraulic pump?

I know that an M36 chassis, fitted with the short 12ft Deuce bed instead of the 14ft bed, can accommodate a knuckleboom (the Canadian military did that on their Deuce variants). I looked at your pics again and your bed does appear to be an unaltered 14ft bed off an 800- or 900 series 5ton.

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Canadian Forces, Princess Patricia Light Infantry, Engineers, Kandahar, 2002 (http://www.afghanistanacanadianstory.ca/content-accumulation/2002-2/)

Oddly enough, the crane in my truck was made in Canada!