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Hummwv roll overs too.
TV and and a beer, CAMO
TV and and a beer, CAMO
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I’m sure whatever it is it will end with “ and these are being sold to individuals and used on public roads!Is this about active military or civy ownership?
In military service and the deaths with little explanation, failed maintenance and training...etc. Lot of money going to the HMMWV fleet to make it safe. Story is a repeat from 5 months ago. First time for me. I found it here >I’m sure whatever it is it will end with “ and these are being sold to individuals and used on public roads!
Sad, I watched a thing where amphibious vehicle sank because it was old and not maintained. Good men died for no reason! I’m all for exposing stuff like that!In military service and the deaths with little explanation, failed maintenance and training...etc. Lot of money going to the HMMWV fleet to make it safe. Story is a repeat from 5 months ago. First time for me. I found it here >
Nothing said about surplus sales... But some company got a good deal on reto-fits / upgrades. See last quarter for HMMWV.
Be careful thinking out loud, CAMO
I have posted that a half a dozen times. Then some here will be looking for the 85 MPH speedometer.
I have posted that a half a dozen times. Then some here will be looking for the 85 MPH speedometer.
I am nervous at 45 MPH. Wait for me. I'll see you when I get there, CAMO
The video rollover where the thing disintegrates is at 45mph.The roll over, while unlikely doesn't seem to be any worse then a mid 80's Jeep (soft-top) either. These things were designed with different requirements than a modern vehicle.
I agree, I wouldn't drive mine anywhere near 85 MPH! But 55? I'm comfortable with it on dry known roads.
I think we're basically saying the same thing. You need to be aware of the vehicle and it's capabilities. It's NOT a modern vehicle with modern safety features. (My 1988 definitely has a LOWER center of gravity then some 1980's Jeeps I've driven, but....) I'd say this is very much 1982 technology.The video rollover where the thing disintegrates is at 45mph.
This is all new to me but just a bit of research shows that its not that hard to roll a HMMWV. High center of gravity.
I think more people need to be fully aware of what they are buying and driving. Its a cool vehicle but has 1960's tin can safety technology.
Definitely not worth dying in one. Its best everyone is fully aware that the limits that the HMMWV they are getting into are far lower than what they are used to on a daily basis.
My posts or rants on this subject is informative and from my perspective. Not looking to be the buzz kill...You guys do you.The uparmored trucks, or trucks with turrets and weapons mounted on them are higher center of gravity.
The plain version with soft top and soft doors has the center of gravity pretty darned low for how wide it is.
60 degree up/downhill and 40 degrees side hill are pretty good.
My immediate though when seeing that disaster of a test is that if I wanted to keep one of these things and drive it that the prudent thing to do would be to install a full welded safety cage. MVTR has a 5 point harness. These things should too if you are really using it.Going back to the video, it talks about ROPS on the armored units. Did that ever make it into production, or was it just an exercise for the video? My tractor has ROPS (roll-over protection system) hoop and from tractor videos I've seen it does an amazing job, as long as the occupant was using it and the seatbelt was on to keep them from flying out of the vehicle.
On the up-armored HMMWVs, between the armor helping to hold together the cabin, and the ROPS stiffening the roof/frame connection it would be a potentially severe injury instead of death, so you've pretty much moved into 1990's technology.
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