How to unload and load a non runner from Albany, GA

[dlynes]

Hello,
How did you load your non runner purchased from Albany, Ga? Do they have heavy enough equipment to pick atleast half of it up to load? Are they willing? I haven’t asked yet but they’ve been very nice talking with.

how did you unload it? Are the brakes already caged?

thank you

 

[BKubu]

Attach some pics of the rear axle and we should be able to tell you if the brakes have been caged. You will see a bolt protruding from the brake cannisters.

 

[dlynes]

If I brought a generator to run a compressor could I keep enough air in the system to use the brakes without engine and trucks systems?

 

[BKubu]

If I brought a generator to run a compressor could I keep enough air in the system to use the brakes without engine and trucks systems?

Are you asking if you could fill the truck's air system with air so that the brakes release and would be operational? Yes, you could do that. However, every time you depress the brakes, air is expended. And, that is not including any air leaks that are almost certainly there.

 

[BKubu]

The other issue is whether or not the site would want you to "work" on the truck on their property. I have no idea about that site, but somes sites do not allow that. Post some pics of your rear axle.

The best thing to do is contact the site on Monday and ask if they will help load the truck. They may we willing to lift the truck, push the truck, or pull the truck onto a trailer.

 

[dlynes]

Are you asking if you could fill the truck's air system with air so that the brakes release and would be operational? Yes, you could do that. However, every time you depress the brakes, air is expended. And, that is not including any air leaks that are almost certainly there.

yes sir please. I am asking in efforts to safely unload it.

 

[BKubu]

yes sir please. I am asking in efforts to safely unload it.

Yes, you can prime the air system on your truck. There are threads on here where guys have done it. You need to install a fitting to allow connection to your air line. Do you have any other military trucks with air? You could buy air lines with gladhands to allow you to connect to the front of the truck (just as if you were going to tow the truck). I have never done it, but I believe the system would stay aired up unless there are serious air leaks or you have depressed the brake pedal a bunch of times. That would prime the air system and allow the brakes to work, assuming the brakes are NOT caged. Once the system is aired up, you'd have some time to roll the truck off and use its brakes to stop it. Obviously, you would want to test the brakes before you roll off.

 

[fuzzytoaster]

They will only load RGN trailers if you have a non-runner. They have a large forklift to lift the rear of the truck and push it up on the trailer. All other loading support is non-existent.

 

[DeMilitarized]

They will only load RGN trailers if you have a non-runner. They have a large forklift to lift the rear of the truck and push it up on the trailer. All other loading support is non-existent.

BINGO! They will not get anywhere near your trailer and will only load RGN. Brakes will not be caged. Buy your own caging bolts because it likely will be missing more than 1. The truck IF it has EVERY SINGLE AIRLINE INTACT will build air if you put air into the system. If there are any leaks in the air system the brakes will stay locked. Getting it safely off the trailer is only achievable with working brakes on the truck, a winch, or a towbar to another truck that is bigger on perfectly flat ground.

 

[aw113sgte]

For caging, the front is service brake so nothing needed, middle axle has a captured cage bolt so no need to worry about it missing, rear axle uses normal cage bolts and there are two cans, so two bolts.
Note I have not done this myself yet but it's from information I've gathered, so grain of salt.
I can test one of my FMTV cage bolts on the rear axle tomorrow if that helps and let you know the PN.
Yes an air compressor can be used to fill the system.
If you just want to release the brakes, put pressure to the red(emergency) front gladhand. Make sure you have chocks.

 

[dlynes]

For caging, the front is service brake so nothing needed, middle axle has a captured cage bolt so no need to worry about it missing, rear axle uses normal cage bolts and there are two cans, so two bolts.
Note I have not done this myself yet but it's from information I've gathered, so grain of salt.
I can test one of my FMTV cage bolts on the rear axle tomorrow if that helps and let you know the PN.
Yes an air compressor can be used to fill the system.
If you just want to release the brakes, put pressure to the red(emergency) front gladhand. Make sure you have chocks.

To unload, I would like to supply air to the system by an external compressor. What attachments would I need to add air to the system and where would I do that at so the brakes would be operational to atleast to release them, tow truck off and ideally stop it.

 

[aw113sgte]

To unload, I would like to supply air to the system by an external compressor. What attachments would I need to add air to the system and where would I do that at so the brakes would be operational to atleast to release them, tow truck off and ideally stop it.

For releasing the parking brakes with the front emergency gladhand (the truck will roll if you do this - this doesn't supply air to the service brakes):

A gladhand: https://www.amazon.com/boeray-Alumi...735486126&sprefix=gladhan,aps,143&sr=8-6&th=1

An adapter: https://www.amazon.com/Reducer-Bush...-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

And an air hose fitting: https://www.amazon.com/Tanya-Hardwa...=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWM&th=1

I'll take a look in the manuals if you can put a standard connector on the tool connector - to air up.

 

[aw113sgte]

You should be able to put whatever fitting you want on the supply reservoir valve (remove valve, install a valve
Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/WYNNsky-Switch-Female-Thread-Fitting/dp/B078W1L7GL/ref=sr_1_3?crid=195A3BKN0KBGJ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.DpkotPR23FSuZcKQrPqKiM0wuQUFAVFOL7rXNHai5uUQ6N80YeJqzWW3lehROxbBjQv4AkTT7ShFHCk3DAZJNPReenfGNcst2jkyI3NYjwCG-1SWUzVGBp-6cuDlN9u4ZvSn9EgwBpJHELolQeSYMIjWzMPSryrbUYA7ZQE4Gle0vRlIoBJgSgibn_F1TwZqTjBcTFqxjGumeSFTIFCk7GpOZxPy277x-nxedXHA_Xk.E4WheY7NSXBLIdzlkYKIkqmZrMrPcfVRKg-iobO7iBs&dib_tag=se&keywords=1/4npt+valve&qid=1735571714&sprefix=1/4npt+valv,aps,147&sr=8-3
Then the air hose fitting I linked above. They are 1/4 NPT.
This will allow you to connect a compressor and fill the tanks, then you can close the valve and remove the compressor for easier movement. Note you will run out of air the more you pump the brakes.

 

[dlynes]

@aw113sgte most appreciated and thank you all! I’ve purchased the items you recommended. Thanks so much. As you can tell, I have never dealt with air brakes and trucks of this size. Just tractors, combines, modern 1 ton trucks and my old ‘53 and ‘68 1 tons.

 

[aw113sgte]

@aw113sgte most appreciated and thank you all! I’ve purchased the items you recommended. Thanks so much. As you can tell, I have never dealt with air brakes and trucks of this size. Just tractors, combines, modern 1 ton trucks and my old ‘53 and ‘68 1 tons.

I never dealt with them till my FMTV last year, learned a lot since then. I haven't tried tried filling my supply line yet on the MTVR but it works great on the FMTV. Emergency gladhand is a standard setup. All of this requires no major leaks in your air system. I would have some cage bolts just in case, they seem to be standardized. You only need two for the 3rd axle as the middle axle has them built in. FMTV 6x6 requires 8 as it has dual cans on each axle end!

 

[Mack90]

I am near Albany, I would offer to help if I was in town.