813 pto

[CaptainRPM]

Anyone no if a deuce pto will fit my 813?? or is the 813 pto just for 5 tons?

thanks

 

[CaptainRPM]

 

[doghead]

It will not fit.

 

[CaptainRPM]

thank you

 

[DaveP]

It will not fit.

I'll second this.
learned the hard way.
I was'nt thinking to good as the M35 mounts on the left and the M818 mounts on the right. (oppisit cut on driven gear)

 

[ARMYMAN30YearsPlus]

Did you have an aluminum shear pin in that winch when it locked up? Just wondering because I would hate to pop the PTO off of my M818. Sorry you busted yours up but I got my PTO for the M52 from Murrays in Delaware. Got to go pull it myself out in their yard.

 

[DaveP]

Did you have an aluminum shear pin in that winch when it locked up? Just wondering because I would hate to pop the PTO off of my M818. Sorry you busted yours up but I got my PTO for the M52 from Murrays in Delaware. Got to go pull it myself out in their yard.

David, did i miss something here?

 

[CaptainRPM]

No i did not have a aluminum shear pin in it was a no grade bolt cuz i ran out of pins i use the winch often because of my mudtruck and just used it a week ago and was my fault for not knockin it out of gear at the winch before i went out sat it was a stupid mistake and i no better and it wont happen again can i ask what ya paid for the pto from murrays

thanks gene

 

[gringeltaube]

What exactly went south or was broken?
Normally a serious overload just causes the housing to blow apart at the mounting flange, often with it goes part of the tranny housing, too!
So if you have access to a Deuce winch PTO you can use that housing and some internals to rebuild yours! That if the 5ton PTO input and related gears survived, of course...!?

G.

 

[doghead]

I think pictures would be good, now!

 

[CaptainRPM]

pto 012.jpg (100.2 KB)

pto 013.jpg (101.4 KB)

 

[clinto]

I think it's broken.

 

[gringeltaube]

Broken PTO housing

I think it's broken.

Are you referring to the input gear also being broken?
For me it doesn't seem so but its kind of hard to tell from that pic.

Hey Captain, if there aren't any teeth reported missing.... that would be an easy fix with a Deuce PTO as a donor!

G.

 

[CaptainRPM]

All the teeth seem to be fine just seems as if just the pto case is broke.
Are ya saying the deuce pto case and my pto case are the same and just swich the internals?

 

[FormerNewMVGuy]

I have a good pto case from a duece, If it will work for you its available. The gears are missin teeth , but the case itself is good.

Pm me i'll give you my cell number

 

[gringeltaube]

PTO cases do interchange!

All the teeth seem to be fine just seems as if just the pto case is broke.
Are ya saying the deuce pto case and my pto case are the same and just swich the internals?

YES Sir! I'm not only saying it, I've done conversions back and forth between both, 2 1/2 and 5ton PTOs. Once again: the case + front and rear covers + many other parts including ALL bearings, seals, boots, etc. are exactly the same for both!!!
Just be confident! Get that Deuce case NewMVGuy is offering and rebuild yours!
Just in case: ODIron has the seals and boots.

BTW, for Deuce AND 5ton owners who prefer to have/operate a rear mounted winch only: all you need to do is install the "other's" PTO output shaft backwards (the 5ton shaft in a Deuce and viceversa) plus switching front and rear covers but retaining the main gears.

Also if we wanted to go one step further and have two winches with identical functions (L,H,R) we just needed to fab a custom output shaft for a dual output and convert the rear cover to install a seal. (Possibly this already exists and I'm only re-inventing the wheel...?)

Gerhard

 

[joec]

Either i'm loosing my mind or i could have sworn I posted in here?

And said that it should fit ???????????

I did I put not 100%sure but 90%



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[CaptainRPM]

I have a good pto case from a duece, If it will work for you its available. The gears are missin teeth , but the case itself is good.

Pm me i'll give you my cell number

Thank You ..... PM,ed

 

[CaptainRPM]

YES Sir! I'm not only saying it, I've done conversions back and forth between both, 2 1/2 and 5ton PTOs. Once again: the case + front and rear covers + many other parts including ALL bearings, seals, boots, etc. are exactly the same for both!!!
Just be confident! Get that Deuce case NewMVGuy is offering and rebuild yours!
Just in case: ODIron has the seals and boots.

BTW, for Deuce AND 5ton owners who prefer to have/operate a rear mounted winch only: all you need to do is install the "other's" PTO output shaft backwards (the 5ton shaft in a Deuce and viceversa) plus switching front and rear covers but retaining the main gears.

Also if we wanted to go one step further and have two winches with identical functions (L,H,R) we just needed to fab a custom output shaft for a dual output and convert the rear cover to install a seal. (Possibly this already exists and I'm only re-inventing the wheel...?)

Gerhard

Thanks for the info i appreciate it

 

[CaptainRPM]

Either i'm loosing my mind or i could have sworn I posted in here?

And said that it should fit ???????????

I did I put not 100%sure but 90%



????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Did not see it thanks for the input tho