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kid from MO needing some info

MO4xer

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hello everyone I'm new here and to the whole mil. surplus vehicle market so naturally I have some questions that it would be awsome if I could get some answers for.

How hard is it for a 17 year old kid like myself to get a hold of say an M1009 or an M1008 at a fair price direct from the DRMO

and how hard is it to work on these trucks because it is my understanding that they have a 24 volt electical system.

like I stated above it would be great if these questions get answered and thanks to all of those that hwlp me in advance
 

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What Westech said, the only better way is with Dads credit card....
24 volt is only two batteries hooked in parrallel...the only down side are switches and lights, Napa carries those.
Good luck with your searching for a MV, dont forget Craigslist, they show up on there from time to time
C.
 

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What Westech said, the only better way is with Dads credit card....
24 volt is only two batteries hooked in parrallel...the only down side are switches and lights, Napa carries those.
Good luck with your searching for a MV, dont forget Craigslist, they show up on there from time to time
C.

well the ONLY thing 24V is the starter. All other lights, horn, blower motor is the 12V over the counter GM junk. The black out drive lights are 24V but who cares about that. I did replace my black out lights but really don't need to. Craigslist is a good one too.. I have seen a couple on CL in your area for 2200-3k
 

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I personally would rather not go through GL, ever. I'd rather find a vehicle for sale privately (which is what I did) so I can poke around with it, test drive it, etc. to my satisfaction, and negotiate normally. For some reason, the GL sales have been ridiculously pricey lately.

There are a lot of differences between the 1008 and 1009, IMO the most important of which is the gearing. The 1008's 4.56 gears are awesome stump-pullers that can pretty near climb trees, but are really, really crappy on the highway. The 1009's 3.08s are awesome for the highway, but crappy for pulling/hauling/etc., at least compared to the 4.56s.

Next most important is are the axles. I forget what the front axle in the 1009 is, but the rear is a pretty light-duty (10 bolt?) unit with a GM gov-bomb unit, whereas the 1008 has the 10.5" 14-bolt with a Detroit Locker rear (front axle in the 1008 is a Dana 60).

After that, the physical size and attributes of the vehicles come into play. The Blazers, with a rear seat and shorter wheelbase, are easier to park, and more usable day to day. The trucks are good for work duties, not so much for daily driving duty (this comes from somebody who has been daily driving a 1008 for several months now).

As for the 24v system, it's not really a 24v system. It's a 12v system that's tweaked a little bit to have a 24v starting system and jumper hookup. The isolated ground alternators can be a royal pain sometimes, same with the starter if it goes.

The trucks are pretty easy to work on (most of the time, but changing a water pump sucks), and parts are pretty cheap and readily available at any auto parts store (well, except for the few specialty parts), but they can be a bit needy if you're putting a lot of miles on them. After all, they're 20+ year old vehicles that didn't exactly get easy highway miles from their previous owners. I needed to put glow plugs and a water pump in mine toward the end of the summer, I popped an alternator last week, fried a starter relay a while back, I've got some sort of intermittent fuel delivery problem on startup, and it just developed one hell of a vibration with certain combination of speed/throttle. Oh, and in the fall I had an alternator decide to arc to the fuel hard line, burn a hole through it, and cause the engine bay to catch fire. That was fun.

Mine will soon (as soon as I can locate a real car) be retired from daily driving usage. It's a great off road truck. It's a great work truck. But, it's pretty useless on the highway, in some tighter parking lots it's a PITA to park, it's loud, and it's just all in all not a great daily driver. No way in hell I'll ever part with it, but no way I'd have it as an only vehicle. Then again, the guy I bought the truck from daily drives a 1009 without major issues, but he also has a really, really expansive selection of spare parts (one or two complete parts trucks), and that makes things easier.
 

MO4xer

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Well dear old dad doesn't want to pay for another truck because I already have three trucks and he paid for two so this is going to have to wait until march (when I turn 18 ) or after I get out of high school and before I head off to basic training but one way or another I'm getting one of these trucks
 
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hobie237

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You could wait until more of the CUCVIIs come out. They're all around better than the CUCV. I mean, go figure, they're newer, but they have 4.10s, which give a good compromise between pulling and hauling, better trans, 6.5 turbodiesel, radio, etc. Harder to find, at the moment, but since you're not exactly in desperate need of a truck, may be better off waiting.
 

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Dad's credit card!

I, myself, did that when I was 17. :grin:

At 17, I was told to go get a job and earn it yourself. There was no further discussion on the subject after that.

I'd second what hobie said though. They are cool trucks, but I wouldn't try to make it a DD. For that matter, I wouldn't try to use any MV for a DD. Not that it can't be done mind you. Plenty of folks here do just that, but it does take a different measure of maintenance and vigilance to insure it will be reliable.
 

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Plenty of folks here do just that, but it does take a different measure of maintenance and vigilance to insure it will be reliable.
furthering your sentiment

I'd suggest keeping a healthy amount of extra wire (16 and 10 gauge), some wire stripper/cutter pliers, few packages of terminals, a crimp tool for the terminals, electrical tape, zip ties, tool set, pry bar, booster pack and some hands free flash lights in the vehicle at all times if you want it to be a daily driver without having a few months to shake out the kinks and debug it.

I can't speak for others, but mine has had more electrical gremlins than my DeLorean. I cannot state for certain that they are all the fault of the previous owner (private party, not military) as some of the wiring that is failing appears to just be old and mangled from getting bumped or pushed out of the way one too many times. I do know that at some point in the next year or so, my M1009 will be as reliable as my DeLorean has come to be but that will be at the expense of many nights and weekends pretending to be a mechanic and telling my wife that I would have needed to replace the 'xyz' part anyway (grin).
 

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I served 45 years in St. louis, MO as a resident before I moved West.
Read lots of stuff on here. Seems like lots of CUCV's come out of Ft. Riley, KS on auction. Also seems like, if ya can handle the problems with glow plugs and fuel injection pumps, you should be ok with them there trucks.
g.
 

MO4xer

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I served 45 years in St. louis, MO as a resident before I moved West.
Read lots of stuff on here. Seems like lots of CUCV's come out of Ft. Riley, KS on auction. Also seems like, if ya can handle the problems with glow plugs and fuel injection pumps, you should be ok with them there trucks.
g.

well that is what I originally planned. I wanted to get one out of Fort Riley and go and get it with dads 3/4 ton dodge and a trailer tow it home and start to work on it
 

AJMBLAZER

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Because this is a great country and if he's paying for them why not? I had friends with at least that many. Of course they came from families that had more vehicles in their stable at any one time than my parents had ever owned total.



hobie...good luck waiting for a CUCV-II. GM made it, we never really bought it. There's a few floating around, sorta like the CUCV-III with the Duramax...but there aren't many.
 
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