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trailer from gsa today

ncduece

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can anyone id this trailer i purchased IT TODAY from gsa its says 30 foot but no capacity. i want to haul some 40 empty shipping containers with it. will it work for that? i realize 10 feet will be extending off the back.they weigh around 8000lbs. can i put my deuce on it to haul or would it be over height? thanks
 

dm22630

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It is an M871 trailer.

FYI --- One of the tires is flat, but you do have a spare that is holding air.

I had to leave my house so I wouldnt buy that trailer. You got a GREAT deal on it!

I highly doubt that it is legal to put anything on a trailer that would have a 10ft overhang..... 2cents
 

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Looks like a M127, 50" deck height, 28' long. Better not get caught on the highway with a 40 footer hangin off the back . . .

Nope, DM is right, I am wrong. Has the bulkhead. M871
 
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ncduece

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i meant to say 40 foot containers. will this be legal to do with this trailer? i may need to put a set of lights on the back of the container? thanks
 

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Gsa trailer

As the others said it is a m871 22.5 ron "break bulk" trailer. It has built in pin locks for a 20 iso container. Other holes are cut into the frame for other size mil-vans but you have to have the movable pins that are part of the bii to use them. In new jersey it would not be legal to haul an object hanging 20 feet off the rear end to my knowledge. M871s also have straight air brakes instead of air over hydraulics which make them easier to maintain in the civilian world.
 

ncduece

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What is the legal length of the semi-trailer?
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Under Connecticut General Statue 14-262, the maximum legal length of the semi-trailer portion of a tractor-trailer combination is 48 feet. When “legal length” is cited, it means the maximum length that can be operated without a permit. Whether a particular load requires a permit because of oversize or overweight concerns is further defined under the 14-270 section of the CGS. The law under CGS 14-270-1 specifically defines the length of a vehicle (trailer) as the “total longitudinal dimension of any vehicle or combination of vehicles, including the load, or load holding device thereon.”

What this means is that any trailer and its load exceeding 48 feet cannot move without a permit. Technically, a one-inch “overhang” on the back of a 48-foot trailer requires a permit. Conversely, if you had a 40-foot trailer and 8 feet of overhang, the trailer and load would be legal because you did not exceed the 48-foot maximum. Naturally, you would have to light and flag the overhang according to State and Federal regulations, but the trailer and load itself would not be illegal.

The same logic is applied to straight trucks. The maximum length of “truck and load” is 45 feet. Any combination of truck and load that does not exceed 45 feet from front to back can travel without a permit.

You cannot obtain a permit for any truck or trailer exceeding the maximum legal lengths if the load being carried can be broken down. For example, a 50-foot beam that is bolted together in the middle to give it the length would not be given a permit because it could be separated into two 25-foot pieces that could easily be carried on the back of a 48-foot trailer.

There are some exceptions. Truck-trailers and tractor-trailers carrying utility poles can carry a 50-foot pole provided the overall length including the poles does not exceed 80 feet.

There are also some exceptions for 53-foot trailers. Why can a 53-trailer be operated without a permit when a 48-foot trailer with 1-foot overhang is illegal without a permit? Because 53-footers operate under the authority of CGS 14-262 with some very specific restrictions. The maximum allowable measurement from the center of the kingpin to the center of the rear-most axle in contact with the road cannot exceed 43 feet. The 43-foot measurement is critical: We estimate that 99% of the 53-foot violations involve an improper kingpin measurement. There are also route restrictions on where these trailers can travel (although the list of restricted routes gets shorter each year), and they are allowed to travel only 1 mile from the allowed routes for pick-up, delivery, repair, food, etc.

if i put a flag and lights on the back of the container wouldn't it be legal on this trailer? im going to be towing in ohio so ill try to find there info
 

ncduece

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overhang

Home About Us Press Releases Contact Us
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What is the legal length of the semi-trailer?
Size Does Matter


Under Connecticut General Statue 14-262, the maximum legal length of the semi-trailer portion of a tractor-trailer combination is 48 feet. When “legal length” is cited, it means the maximum length that can be operated without a permit. Whether a particular load requires a permit because of oversize or overweight concerns is further defined under the 14-270 section of the CGS. The law under CGS 14-270-1 specifically defines the length of a vehicle (trailer) as the “total longitudinal dimension of any vehicle or combination of vehicles, including the load, or load holding device thereon.”

What this means is that any trailer and its load exceeding 48 feet cannot move without a permit. Technically, a one-inch “overhang” on the back of a 48-foot trailer requires a permit. Conversely, if you had a 40-foot trailer and 8 feet of overhang, the trailer and load would be legal because you did not exceed the 48-foot maximum. Naturally, you would have to light and flag the overhang according to State and Federal regulations, but the trailer and load itself would not be illegal.

The same logic is applied to straight trucks. The maximum length of “truck and load” is 45 feet. Any combination of truck and load that does not exceed 45 feet from front to back can travel without a permit.

You cannot obtain a permit for any truck or trailer exceeding the maximum legal lengths if the load being carried can be broken down. For example, a 50-foot beam that is bolted together in the middle to give it the length would not be given a permit because it could be separated into two 25-foot pieces that could easily be carried on the back of a 48-foot trailer.

There are some exceptions. Truck-trailers and tractor-trailers carrying utility poles can carry a 50-foot pole provided the overall length including the poles does not exceed 80 feet.

There are also some exceptions for 53-foot trailers. Why can a 53-trailer be operated without a permit when a 48-foot trailer with 1-foot overhang is illegal without a permit? Because 53-footers operate under the authority of CGS 14-262 with some very specific restrictions. The maximum allowable measurement from the center of the kingpin to the center of the rear-most axle in contact with the road cannot exceed 43 feet. The 43-foot measurement is critical: We estimate that 99% of the 53-foot violations involve an improper kingpin measurement. There are also route restrictions on where these trailers can travel (although the list of restricted routes gets shorter each year), and they are allowed to travel only 1 mile from the allowed routes for pick-up, delivery, repair, food, etc.

if i put a flag and lights on the back of the container wouldn't it be legal on this trailer? im going to be towing in ohio so ill try to find there info
 

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Most states adhere to the following rules regarding overhang:
0-5'--flag each rear corner
5'1"-10'--flags and lights each rear corner--assumes not over 65' overall length
10'1"-15'--flags and lights and oversize permit
over 15', all above and escort
 
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