need bumper numbers for my truck

[maddawg308]

The front bumper was damaged in an accident coming home from Haspin in June - it must be replaced. In the process, I will be re-assigning the truck to a new unit, so to speak. The new stencil markings will go on when the new bumper is mounted.

I need the proper bumper markings for a truck with the following lineage:

Army Reserve Command
Civil Affairs and Psychological Operations Command
2nd Psychological Operations Group (Airborne)
11th Psychological Operations Battalion (Tactical)
305th Psychological Operations Company
Truck #12

 

[ABN173]

Mike, you need you need to narrow it down a bit.......just pick one say the last one for example:
left side would read 305th PSY OPS right side could be whatever HQ 12, A-12, B 12
although the right side is just a guess other example :
11th PSY OPS BN or 11th PO BN Right side POC 12

Without seeing how the unit marks their vehicles all you can do is guess.
I am a UAV warrant officer/platoon leader so I could not resist dubbing mine UAV 6

 

[FormerNewMVGuy]

Sorry to hear of an accident Mike.. I hope know one was injured. Did you just bend the bumper?

 

[maddawg308]

Yes, some woman in Indiana cut me off while Ferro, Cabell and I were convoying back from the Haspin rally. Only the bumper got damaged, her car was torn open like a beer can from the rear passenger window back, noone injured. Her insurance wouldn't cover the damage to my truck, they didn't assign fault to anyone but stood by their policy holder. Oh well, I'm only out a $100 bumper.

 

[DAS]

snapped them bolts...wow,she really leaned into you...heat and a press need for sure,,,,sorry ...good luck was with you she didnt get more of the truck...DAS

 

[bulldog_mack13]

11th PO BN 305 POC ------ POC 12 is a good guess BUT

Why not ask the unit or go to the unit for a picture of one of there trucks to see it the way they do it. With the info you gave you still dont know what would be correct. In front of my bumper number on the M1114 it says III 3/3 CAV . The III is for 3 corps , so you never know what the unit was required to add or take away from a bumber marking.

 

[ABN173]

Yes, some woman in Indiana cut me off while Ferro, Cabell and I were convoying back from the Haspin rally. Only the bumper got damaged, her car was torn open like a beer can from the rear passenger window back, noone injured. Her insurance wouldn't cover the damage to my truck, they didn't assign fault to anyone but stood by their policy holder. Oh well, I'm only out a $100 bumper.

Do you have pics of her car? that would be something to see. I posted a accident thread once where this kid drove under my lifted M1009 (which was parked). His car looked like it tried driving through a cheese grader. while mine you had to look very close to even see the damage. So I got to ask did the police look inside the "Beer" cooler strapped to the front?

Glad you guys are ok,
Dale

 

[KyCUCVs]

As ABN173 said, without seeing how the unit marks their vehicles, all you can do is guess. The 305th POC is located at 5550 Dower House Rd, Upper Marlboro, MD 20772. You may be able to write them and ask to be e-mailed a photo of their bumper numbers. Explain why you need it. The 305th must be one squared away unit. They received the Navy Presidential Unit Citation for their service in Iraq. They received the Navy award because they were supporting a Marine Expeditionary Force. And Marines don’t give away awards just for showing up.

If I was the Motor Sergeant and had to develop the bumper markings for your vehicle based on TB 43-0209 I would mark the vehicle:

2POG – 11POB .............305POC - 12

Make sense? Clear as mud?

Bumper markings are four groups of letters/numbers, two on the left side and two on the right. From left to right, they describe the major command, intermediate command, the unit owning the vehicle and the vehicle number.

Concerning actual vehicle numbers, 6 is usually associated with the Unit Commander (HQ-6, B-6), 5 with the unit XO (HQ-5, B-5), 4 with the S-4 or Supply (HQ-4, B-4), 3 with the S-3 or Operations (HQ-3 or B-3), 2 with the S-2 or Intelligence (HQ-2, B-2) and 1 with the S-1 or Personnel Administration (HQ-1, B-1). The number 7 is usually associated with the First Sergeant or Command Sergeant Major

Vehicle number may also indicate platoon. Thus, -12 could indicate 1st Platoon, 2nd Truck, -22 would indicate 2nd Platoon, second truck, etc. Using this system, some numbers would be skipped. A tank company’s tanks (in this case Company D) are numbered D11, D12, D13, D14, D21, D22, D23, D24, D31, D32, D33, D34. The Company Commanders tank is D66, his hummer is D6. The XO’s tank is D65, his hummer is D5. Go figure. The Supply truck is D4. The First Sergeant has a M113 APC. I’ve seen First Sergeant’s tracks marked D67, D77 and D7.

TB 43-0209 is available on the Forum under Resources/Technical Manuals. Bumper markings are covered on pages 3 and 15-17. In my opinion, the guidance is poorly written and open to interpretation. Some of the examples don’t exactly follow the guidance.

 

[papercu]

You could still recover your loss in a small claim court. Wayne

 

[bkwudzhom]

Dont forget to stencil the small pic of a car on the door for your first "kill" lol

 

[fasttruck]

Sometimes vehicles assiend to more obscure units may be drawn on handrecei-t from another. In rvn servied in 101 mi company and about half our motor pool was marked "hq, 101 abn" and a hq bumper number for the unit. Usa numbers are permanent and assigned by da, bumper numbers are generated by the unit and can be changed by the commander at will or if you vehcile goes on permanent change of station to another unit.

 

[wiggall]

I can not belive that she bent athe heavy bumper like that. Would have loved to see her face I would push it, and get her pay to replace the bumper

 

[txdodge43man]

A little heat and a tree to push up aginst should fix it. that or a really big BFH