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Rebelpride

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I've been trying to learn as much as I can about the deuce before my EUC clears and I
go to pick it up. I am thinking of converting it to singles. Correct me if I am wrong but
I can run singles with the stock rims, right. But where can I find the "super" singles that I
have seen mentioned here.
 

M1075

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There has been a lot of good information posted on this topic. A good search would help you see all the options. Singles with stock rims is not the best choice because the track will be very narrow in the rear when you flip the hubs (or will not track the same if you keep the outer tire only). Super singles require custom rims or those from the M35A3 deuce. You can make your own or try www.stazworks.com for custom ones.
 

rockman

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RP, I have been running 12.5 x 20 XLs on stock rims for about 1.5 years with no problems. I have not yet flipped the hub as time is not on my side. If you have a good set to 9x20s, I might be looking to trade as I miss the duals.

Bill in NE TN.
 

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GoHot229

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The thing about singles that seems strange, unless you have the custon wheels and BIG tires is that when you run say 11.00 NDT's on the inboard position it simply looks like someone swiped your outboard tire and wheels. It looks too narrow and weenie'd to me. Why not run them to the outside like regular, minus the inside duals ? I know the military ran them that way, but it seems unstable and looks goofy in my opinion. Or does flipping the hubs set them in a more outboard position?
I guess while going through all the MANY posts/threads that the problem may be the bearing loads on the rear axle not being centered.
 
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LanceRobson

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Even the stock 9.00-20s will support a maxed out M35 when singled. Any increase in tire size and weight rating is simply a matter of personal choice. The original M34 trucks had single 11.00-20 tires with a wheel well in the bed, flipped hubs and rims with an inch or so less offset to widen the track.

There are pluses and minuses to both single and dual rears.

Among the pluses for singles: Buy 7 tires and rims, not 10. Tighter turning radius. Typically better cross country performance, particularly in reduced traction conditions and when lightly loaded. Unless you go to monster tires, singles will weigh less than duals and burn up less HP in getting them rolling. They can look really cool.

Pluses for duals: Lower cargo deck height. Less urgency in dealing with rear flats (singles=stop and fix a flat NOW, duals= limp to a safe level spot) In really rough terrain, you've got 5 spares. Less downshifting on hills. Full suspension articulation (tall tires bottom out in some conditions)

Lots of other things to think about but I'd start with asking myself "What am I REALLY going to do with this truck?" Sometimes when this subject comes up I'm reminded of the guy who owns a canoe and kayak shop who says "I'm always surprised by the number of people who come in to shop for a two person canoe who state that they don't have a regular paddling partner!"

If you only want the truck to look good for you or to carry light loads, do what you want. If you intend to carry really heavy loads in broken county, you'll likely want the full suspension travel and clearance of dual 9.00-20s. The final answer depends on the response to the first question and your budget.

Good luck

Lance
 

Mark2X2

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If we lived a little closer!

RP, I have been running 12.5 x 20 XLs on stock rims for about 1.5 years with no problems. I have not yet flipped the hub as time is not on my side. If you have a good set to 9x20s, I might be looking to trade as I miss the duals.

Bill in NE TN.
Bill,
To bad we don't live closer! I have 6) 9.00-20 that are almost new less than 500 miles, and the other for are at 80%.
 

1stDeuce

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Here it is... The long awaited (by me anyway!) final product of putting 11.00-20 NDT's on my deuce in single format. I flipped the hubs late this summer, and just ran the 9.00's on stock deuce wheels, which were fine. A few weeks ago I finally got to painting up the M34/M135 wheels that I got two years ago. And then last weekend and week I spent a few hours mounting up the new 11.00's I picked up this summer with new tubes and flaps. (The flaps were rolled up inside the new 11.00's!)

Just a few comments about the process... Mounting tires on wheels by yourself is a big job. Not as bit as dismounting them can be, but I was tired after doing four last Saturday. And a 11.00 on wheel is HEAVY. They don't roll right either. :)

After driving the truck just a little bit around my drive today, I do believe it steers easier. Can't explain it, it just does. (60psi front, 45 rear)

So here are some pictures showing before and after. I like it!
Chris
 

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BFR

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I went to 1100's out of concern for the load on the front tires. My 900's are rated at 4000 lbs each, 1100's 5920 lbs each, nealry a 50% increase.

I am also partial to the m34 wheel also.:wink:
 

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cruzinz28

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I have a set of 7 M34 Wheels is anyone is interested in them. Was going to use them on my bobber project, but went with the A3 rims instead
 

11Echo

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Well, a singles thread should have the obligatory pic of a Canadian deuce.

11R20 Michelins.
 

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orren

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I went to 1100's out of concern for the load on the front tires. My 900's are rated at 4000 lbs each, 1100's 5920 lbs each, nealry a 50% increase.

I am also partial to the m34 wheel also.:wink:
Can we use the same wheels on the 1100's as are on the 900's?

Also, where is a good place to get 1100's? I just need two for the front only; going to keep the duals, as is, on the back.

Thanks,
Orren
 

kc5mzd

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If you use the stock M35a2 rims I think you should be able to run dual 11.00s. If you mix any combination of 9.00 and 11.00 you are asking for trouble. If you do I would highly reccomend removing the front driveshaft.
 

stumps

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Every M35A2 seems to have a data plate that gives the tire pressures for dual 9x20's, and single 11x20's. When were single 11x20's used (by the military) on M35A2's?

-Chuck
 
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