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Yes, I bought an actual garbage truck.
I was looking for a Ross steering box a few months ago for a Gringletaube steering project. I never found the Ross box. But here is what I did find.
It's a 1994 CCC garbage truck - Crane Carrier Corporation out of Oklahoma.
The story that I was told by one of the salvage yard guys was this. It was being used by cardboard thieves. They were caught & the truck was impounded 2 years ago. It was slated for the crusher last week but they couldn't move it because the air brakes were locked & the truck is stuffed full of garbage. Apparently it ran good when the police impounded it. The odometer reads only 12,000 miles. So perhaps it received a recent engine transplant. The tires look much older than 12,000. I never even knew that stealing cardboard was apparently a big criminal deal. They take it to the recycling centers.
When I looked at the truck this is the first thing I saw
If you don't recognize it, that's an Allison 6 speed 3560P tranny. I think it also has an integrated hydraulic retarder to assist braking power & save brake pads. But I'm not 100 sure about that. They have good granny gearing and a good overdrive ratio.
I looked up CCC garbage trucks for that year. Most of them had 8.3 Cummins in them. Some had Mitsubishi. I'm not an expert on diesel motors, but I'm pretty sure this one is the Cummins 8.3. I'll post pics of the engine in a few minutes after I upload the pics.
This engine/tranny/radiator is a monster. Not so much any individual component, but when taken together it's a beast. The engine actually looks smaller than the Multifuel. Of course, the Allison is a bit bigger than the Spicer.
So, instead of spending three weeks straight trying to unbolt giant bolts in the blistering heat, 45 miles from home, I asked the boss if his guys could just cut the frame & hoist everything into my truck
My Deuce's virgin load. And this will probably be its heaviest load because I'm crew cabbing it, putting the upright radiators behind the crew cab, and the remaining space will be the bed. I'm guessing the bed will be half as big as it is now. Therefore, this will definitely be my largest load. I can't complain. The truck hauled it without problems. But the Spicer really annoys me. Let me tell you, with the garbage truck frame still attached that front half of the garbage truck is HEAVY! The forklift guy was barely able to lift it with a huge forklift that normally tosses cars back and forth all day.
The only dings that happened was the guy dropped the cab on the radiator filter. It sheared the filter off, but I think the engine is ok. He nipped a couple of the hydraulic hoses with the forklift, burned one set of wires accidentally with the torch, and broke off something on the back of the Allison.
I don't think it's a big deal. But I have no idea what the part is called, where I will find it, or how much it costs. It's at the very back where the giant hydraulic lines come out & go to ??? the cooler?
The salvage yard let me have EVERYTHING for $1000 + tax. I spent 1 day prepping it, pulling out computer/wiring etc. The parts pullers, 2 of them, spent 2 days removing the cab, cutting the frame, cutting off the fenders & front axle. So I gave them a $300 tip & 2 cases of beer
I don't think the salvage salesman understood how expensive Allison 3560's & Cummins 8.3's are. Not only that. But it has an integrated garbage truck PTO for a dedicated hydraulic pump on the crankcase!! Looks like I'll be switching over to a hydraulic winch.
While you are reading this I'll upload the remaining few pics. Maybe some of you diesel experts can verify if the engine is a Cummins or not.
I was looking for a Ross steering box a few months ago for a Gringletaube steering project. I never found the Ross box. But here is what I did find.
It's a 1994 CCC garbage truck - Crane Carrier Corporation out of Oklahoma.
The story that I was told by one of the salvage yard guys was this. It was being used by cardboard thieves. They were caught & the truck was impounded 2 years ago. It was slated for the crusher last week but they couldn't move it because the air brakes were locked & the truck is stuffed full of garbage. Apparently it ran good when the police impounded it. The odometer reads only 12,000 miles. So perhaps it received a recent engine transplant. The tires look much older than 12,000. I never even knew that stealing cardboard was apparently a big criminal deal. They take it to the recycling centers.
When I looked at the truck this is the first thing I saw
If you don't recognize it, that's an Allison 6 speed 3560P tranny. I think it also has an integrated hydraulic retarder to assist braking power & save brake pads. But I'm not 100 sure about that. They have good granny gearing and a good overdrive ratio.
I looked up CCC garbage trucks for that year. Most of them had 8.3 Cummins in them. Some had Mitsubishi. I'm not an expert on diesel motors, but I'm pretty sure this one is the Cummins 8.3. I'll post pics of the engine in a few minutes after I upload the pics.
This engine/tranny/radiator is a monster. Not so much any individual component, but when taken together it's a beast. The engine actually looks smaller than the Multifuel. Of course, the Allison is a bit bigger than the Spicer.
So, instead of spending three weeks straight trying to unbolt giant bolts in the blistering heat, 45 miles from home, I asked the boss if his guys could just cut the frame & hoist everything into my truck
My Deuce's virgin load. And this will probably be its heaviest load because I'm crew cabbing it, putting the upright radiators behind the crew cab, and the remaining space will be the bed. I'm guessing the bed will be half as big as it is now. Therefore, this will definitely be my largest load. I can't complain. The truck hauled it without problems. But the Spicer really annoys me. Let me tell you, with the garbage truck frame still attached that front half of the garbage truck is HEAVY! The forklift guy was barely able to lift it with a huge forklift that normally tosses cars back and forth all day.
The only dings that happened was the guy dropped the cab on the radiator filter. It sheared the filter off, but I think the engine is ok. He nipped a couple of the hydraulic hoses with the forklift, burned one set of wires accidentally with the torch, and broke off something on the back of the Allison.
I don't think it's a big deal. But I have no idea what the part is called, where I will find it, or how much it costs. It's at the very back where the giant hydraulic lines come out & go to ??? the cooler?
The salvage yard let me have EVERYTHING for $1000 + tax. I spent 1 day prepping it, pulling out computer/wiring etc. The parts pullers, 2 of them, spent 2 days removing the cab, cutting the frame, cutting off the fenders & front axle. So I gave them a $300 tip & 2 cases of beer
I don't think the salvage salesman understood how expensive Allison 3560's & Cummins 8.3's are. Not only that. But it has an integrated garbage truck PTO for a dedicated hydraulic pump on the crankcase!! Looks like I'll be switching over to a hydraulic winch.
While you are reading this I'll upload the remaining few pics. Maybe some of you diesel experts can verify if the engine is a Cummins or not.
