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4 Hour Oil Change

NRGarrott

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I attempted to change my oil for the first time on the M1008. Little did I know the fun I was about to have. It took me about 4 hours over 2 days, and a plethora of cursing including the ultimate, "IF YOU DON"T COME OFF RIGHT NOW, SO HELP ME GOD, I WILL SEND THIS WHOLE TRUCK TO THE CRUSHER."

In the end i used a 6 foot piece of iron pipe, a 1/2" ratchet with extensions and a tool i purchased from pep-boys that consisted of a piece of 2" webbing and a 1/2"x4" piece of steel stock.
 

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akguy

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HAVE HAD THAT HAPPEN TO ME WHEN I WORKED ON THEM IN ALASKA. PEOPLE THAT CHANGE THEIR OWN OIL PUT THE NEW FILTERS ON WITH A FILTER WRENCH. YOU ONLY NEED TO PUT THEM ON SNUG BY HAND AFTER PUTTING SOME OIL ON THE GASKET. YES, THEY CAN BE A PITA TO GET OFF SOMETIMES. auaaua
 

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That's not cool at all. I've got the usual filter wrenches and they usually work but if they don't. I've got a filter removal tool that has 1/2 in. drive and has three "fingers". You fit it over the end of the filter and as you ratchet it the fingers clamp down on the filter. I've yet to have a filter not come off with it. It'll crush the end until they sometimes look like yours when I'm done.
 

CUCV85

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That's not cool at all. I've got the usual filter wrenches and they usually work but if they don't. I've got a filter removal tool that has 1/2 in. drive and has three "fingers". You fit it over the end of the filter and as you ratchet it the fingers clamp down on the filter. I've yet to have a filter not come off with it. It'll crush the end until they sometimes look like yours when I'm done.

I had a filter so bad I ended up picking piece
by piece off with channel locks, aua
all that was left was the inside bottom of the top
that screwed on. I used a large punch and tapped
on the flat plate holes and little
by little it eventually came off! It was unbelievable
and I have never since had anything close to that bad...
 

OLDCHEV4X4

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Oh man.....That sucks. I had a stubborn one once. I ended up driving a screwdriver thru the whole thing and got it to loosen a little. Then it came right off.
 

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I had a pretty long oil change the ther day in my civy 6.2l k20 / m1031 project. I was totally out of my mind when i forgot that 15-40 is about the consistacy of honey when its left sitting out side in sub zero temps. it was so thick it kept clogging up in the filler neck on the way in........aua
 

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Oh man.....That sucks. I had a stubborn one once. I ended up driving a screwdriver thru the whole thing and got it to loosen a little. Then it came right off.

MY STUBBORN OIL FILTER REMOVAL TOOL?

Amazon.com: Glock Knife With Fixed Clip Point Blade Md: KB17278.: Sports & Outdoors.

When ever an oil filter gets stuck, I pull that baby out. Stick it straight through AND I PROMISE IT WILL COME RIGHT OFF.

No if's, and's or maybes.

And as has been said, a dab of oil on the threads of the new filter (YOU DID CLEAN THE FILTER MOUNTING PLATE BEFORE INSTALLING THE NEW FILTER, RIGHT?), a little oil on the rubber gasket and then tighten by hand. AND as has been said, you don't need to crank it down hard. Just hand tight, slight snug.
 

edpdx

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Sucks!. If you have been changing your own oil for any time, this is gonna eventually happen. I look at all the posts on this thread and shake my head... "I've been there", and "Had one like that too". It's these things that make it possible to manage other equally difficult mechanical SNAFUS in the field when they happen.

Glad to see you won this battle.
 

CUCV85

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The filter yes was a fram and a Ph13 at that.
Had been on the vehicle I took it off better than 20 years.
There was nothing to stick anything through.
The filter was half rotted off!
I never seen anything like that.
I imagine that it was truly possible that no one added any oil
to the o ring on the filter. Man, I would have thought it would
take at least 50 years to ROT an oil filter like I seen.
That vehicle was indoors totally out of the weather.
It was a plow truck and the reverse went so it was pushed into a barn.
There must have been quite a bunch of salt on that filter,
undercarriage was rotted bad but engine looked fine!
I ended up putting a used Fram PH5 filter
and used Rotella 15w40 gallon I had
with me in that truck motor just for the heck of it.
Used spray bottle with gas, Jumped it, sprayed a squirt once in awhile
got that truck to idle couldn't believe it. 1980 350 with 18,000 miles
- probably every seal in the motor should be replaced when pulled,
I just went for the plow and have a mint motor now as a donor
for another plow truck someday!

 
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pwrwagonfire

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HAVE HAD THAT HAPPEN TO ME WHEN I WORKED ON THEM IN ALASKA. PEOPLE THAT CHANGE THEIR OWN OIL PUT THE NEW FILTERS ON WITH A FILTER WRENCH. YOU ONLY NEED TO PUT THEM ON SNUG BY HAND AFTER PUTTING SOME OIL ON THE GASKET. YES, THEY CAN BE A PITA TO GET OFF SOMETIMES. auaaua

So true! I hate over tightened oil filters, one of my BIGGEST pet peeves
:?

I've got that same tool your last photo shows...I bought it to use in my '94 saturn
 

NRGarrott

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I tried the screwdriver trick, it pushed right through. When i tried to twist it, no luck. I ended up putting a cheater bar on the end of the screwdriver and all it did was tear the metal around the filter. Wagonfire where are you a fireman at?
 

CUCV85

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I had a pretty long oil change the ther day in my civy 6.2l k20 / m1031 project. I was totally out of my mind when i forgot that 15-40 is about the consistacy of honey when its left sitting out side in sub zero temps. it was so thick it kept clogging up in the filler neck on the way in........aua
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I did that once, now I bring the oil in the night before.
Don't know why your filler tube was clogging up -
has a decent diameter.
I have a 2 quart metal funnel, filled it up walked away.
 

Flyingvan911

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I'm glad you prevailed. A lot of work for a 1/2 hour oil change. And that's if you go slow and piddle around like I do. And I thought it sucked when the 5 gallon bucket overflowed by quart when I changed my deuce's oil for the first time.
 

1956_4x4

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When I was in the AF we had a mechanic that was going to be booted out. He wasn't the greatest mechanic so we had him working the lube rack doing oil changes. The thought process was "What can he really mess up on the lube rack..."

Well, we found out what he could mess up later after he was long gone from the AF. Every oil filter he installed must have been dry and we could see where he tightened them down with a strap wrench. We remembered him "fondly..." as we ran all of those vehicles through their next oil change. I'm sure he was laughing everytime he thought of his time on the lube rack.

Smitty
 

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Punch a hole in the center and off to one side. Stick a heavy duty pair of needle nose pliers in tap them in a little and turn. Worked on every oil filter i have a problem with.








Mike
 

DokWatson

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Never seen an oil filter crushed like that... Must have been on there really good. I like Fram filters, nothing wrong with them. Its not the filters fault an idiot put it on at one point. I like the grip Fram puts on the bottom for getting it hand tight easier.
 
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